[panelwagon62]

Hey, how is basecoat ultra 7000 from sherwin williams compared to ppg's deltron line?

[MARTINSR]

Originally Posted by panelwagon62

Hey, how is basecoat ultra 7000 from sherwin williams compared to ppg's deltron line?

Oh yeah, the great paint debate. This is like asking what is better Ford or Chevy, blond or brunette, Coke or Pepsi.

Taking emotion and opinion out, the two paint lines are VERY similar and you would see no real difference is the FACT.

People spray both everyday in high end collision shops, custom shops and restorations.

Brian

[panelwagon62]

Well reason I am asking is I can mix the ultra 7000 here at the shop I work at, or buy ppg. I'm only spraying the tailgate on my truck because I shaved it but to save a few bucks I though about just mixing it here.

[ogre]

Originally Posted by MARTINSR

This is like asking what is better Ford or Chevy, blond or brunette, Coke or Pepsi.
Brian

chevy, brunette, beer

[Conrad_AZ]

Originally Posted by ogre

chevy, brunette, beer

Mopar, redhead, scotch

[MARTINSR]

Rambler, Chevy, Buick- Blond-Bourbon.

Brian

[Turdpolisher]

Pepsi by far

[alittle1]

The Un-Cola, 7 UP!

[panelwagon62]

Now this has become quite the non-paint related debate thread...........Dr.Pepper!

[bighotroddin]

I use Sherwin at work and mostly PPG for my at home projects. Not much of a difference but i would save a couple bucks and mix up 8oz.

My biggest gripe is the new format for Sherwins website. They changed a bunch of stuff and we keep having problems with the log in and the mixes going to the scale.

[panelwagon62]

Yeah our computer program is messed up to, always have to put your password in for everything you do! But today I did a spray out of my color, its PRH from a 2006 dodge. PPG's standard matched pretty nice, but sherwin williams didn't. To dark of a face and didn't have the right flop. The alternats didn't match either. Think maybe I will just go with ppg.

[bighotroddin]

Sounds like another case of the Sherwins blues. I'm not a big fan of it my self and frankly find there color match chart that comes up on the computer pretty confusing. There color chips arn't much better either. Sometimes I think they should of stuck with house paint.

Some colors just dont match thats why you have to do bigger blends and custom tint.

[panelwagon62]

Oh god I know it. Their color chip books rarely match and eight times out of ten your going to be tinting. Our head painter works flat rate and there are times he will be there untill eleven some nights because he will be tinting colors for so long. Even the color I sprayed, looked awesome in the sun, once it was in the shade forget it, it looked purple! That's another thing to, we will have so many colors that look good outside and not inside or look good in the booth but doesn't match outside.

[crashtech]

I have used both, and could detail the pros and cons of each if there was time.

Mainly, I have found S-W Ultra 7000 to have superior chip resistance but slower drying with poorer gloss holdout of the cleared finish, notably with poor hiding colors that require extra coats.

DBC is more user friendly and much easier to sand if needed, but it is brittle when cured. In my opinion, DBC users should always use the optional DX57 activator to maintain flexibility and prevent excess stone chipping.