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Old 01-16-2014, 11:15 AM
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How to fit a 429 in Fairlane

I have a 1963 Ford Fairlane 500 which would like to fit a big block into someday but what all would I need to do to fit a 429?

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mustang II front

If you install a mustang II front suspension kit and remove the spring tower humps you will have some more space. they make MII kits for 65-6 mustangs I don't know how close those kits would fit google fairlane thunderbolts. they installed 427 FE engines in those. the modifications were done by an outside contractor,, not in a ford factory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fairlane_Thunderbolt

http://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/...hunderbolt.htm

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Yea I know about the thunderbolt I just havent been able to find what all they did to fit it
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From Wikipedia "Installing the engine in a vehicle intended for an engine no larger than 289 CID (4.7 L) required major reworking and relocation of the car's front suspension components and the modification and strengthening of the suspension mounting areas." "The Thunderbolt was not built on a regular Ford assembly line, but rather in conjunction with Andy Holten of Dearborn Steel Tubing. It was there that partially built Fairlane bodies in top-of-the-line "500" exterior trim were combined with the 427 and either a heavy-duty Lincoln automatic transmission or a Borg-Warner four-speed manual transmission."

URL for DST is DEARBORNSTEELTUBING.COM Maybe you could contact them and get more specific info.
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Some shock tower massaging not bad for installing the FE engine but rough to install a 429 or 460 then its serious massaging, And get a conversion kit! Consisting of Mts and Plates. Tubular automotive used to sell them for FE conversions years ago. But if your a good fabricator you can use later model mts and fabricate your own mounting plates!
Stock measurements for Fairlane ('62-'63 & Mercury Meteor)
Top of shock tower width: 28 inches
Bottom of shock tower width: 21 inches
Framerail width: 27 inches

Big block measurments '66-'69 Fairlane ('66-'69 Mercury Comet, Montego)
Top of shock tower width: 28 inches
Bottom of shock tower width: 25.58 inches
Framerail width: 28.58 inches

Those measurments may help

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You'll want to become familiar with these folks. Ford stuff only. Click on the left side of the page "'62-'65 Fairlane. Mounts, headers, all kinds of stuff for the swap.
http://www.critesperformanceparts.com/

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rear suspension

The thunderbolt rear suspension arms were welded to the axle tubes and were for drag racing only . The drivers said they had to brace their left arm against the door to hold the steering wheel hard and keep the car going straight ahead. The early falcolns and fairlanes had terrible bump steer when the front end lifted. A better rear suspension would be to use coilovers-4 link type. I worked for Ford in 64, went into a dealer to order one but didn't have connections.I was told when I hired on as an Engineer in the colleger grad training program I could get a good discount on a new car but the only good prices were on 4 door 6 cyl falcons so I drove my Buick powered Willys to work most of the time. .
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The problem with fitting a 429 into the early Fairlane isn't the shock towers...you could engine plate it in and stiffen the front end at the same time.

The problem is the exhaust, custom block huggers or a custom set of fenderwell headers would be needed...good luck as that could cost a small fortune.

A stroked 351W is a far wiser swap and in the end almost the same cubic inch as a big block with none of the weight penalty. Lots of parts around from the mustang craze and even great AL heads available now from the aftermarket.

Big blocks are great but let's face it, a stroked small block is far lighter...fits where the 289 bolts up and a C4 trans drops into the stock location with the 289 mount plus 1969-70 Mustang headers make the exhaust issue simple. Not to mention any of the late model roller blocks sitting in the junkyards in almost every Ford full size van.

Why complicate your life...unless your loaded and it's a lifetime dream and you have money to burn it doesn't make sense.
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Or you do it Nostalgia style and build a gasser or A/FX clone like this:
The straight axle will give you plenty of clearance,here is a good example of a build with lots of pictures:https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...5384103&type=3
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Here is one my friend had built by the Roadster Shop in Mundelein, IL. It falls into the "lifetime dream and you have money" category that Chuck was talking about.

The solution to many of the big block issues here was to put the car on a frame.



Build pics (here)

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You can gain the necessary room by using a kit from RCMotorsports, I've installed 2 now, they are well built and the outfit is awesome for tech support and answering questions. Here's a pic of my Maverick ready for the engine install...

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