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Old 12-08-2011, 01:00 AM
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How to get a title for that A bone project

First I'm in Nevada. Second I am buying (but have not paid for) a Model A Tudor "tub" chopped body on a Rod Factory new model A frame. No engine...just a roller with sheet metal. There is no title, the car is in/from Arizona. I will get a bill of sale. End of story. Will it end sad?
So what am I up against as far as getting it titled here? I know there are no VIN's on the A frame...maybe that's good with a repro frame but without an engine serial number to use (as I have heard was common to issue a title from) I am not sure where this will end up. I know every state is different so any Nevadan's work through this one?
Anything else I should get from the seller (besides the bill of sale)?
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:05 AM
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As with all title issues, you need to begin at your own (Nevada) state DMV office or web site. Each state has different rules and regulations for titling cars, including hot rods, and for issuing VINs and titles for cars that don't already have them.

Don't go by what I say about Wisconsin or Joe Schmo says about New York. All you need to know is what Nevada's DMV requires. So google up you DMV and seach the site for title and/or replacement title info.

You can also get a general overview here at the Wiki.
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car title

here in georgia, any car/truck older than 25 years doesn't need/have a title.
just a bill-of-sale. i've sold a few on ebay, and that's all i give. never heard any problems from buyers. that's all i'm going to say. --steve
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I think I want to move to GA. In Illinois and Indiana I think you'd be SOL
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in Oregon I just went to the DMV, where they set up an appointment for me to see the state trooper inspector dude. he verified there was no vin, issued me a number, and I was back at DMV getting a title the next day. titled as a reconstructed 31 Ford (and therefore no smog or other hoops to jump through).

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BTW: for the bucket T in my "last photo pic" I saw the same trooper. he looked at it and said "looks like a 23 Ford to me" and issued a vin #.
I love Oregon. ;-)
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Here's a web site with the various serial numbers . If you really want to chance it, choose one and have the owner 'swear it's right' on the BOS - but it is a big lie, can land you in jail and can cost you big bucks. As far as where those numbers originally were stamped - it was the same as the engine number and it was also stamped on the original frame, often under the cowl corner.

The best way - you need to visit your DMV about home built or special interest automobiles and discuss with a knowledgeable person, usually not the harassed lady behind the counter
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My Model A - V8 roadster, came with a title and bill of sale. 3 years later I got a letter from the dmv asking if I was the owner of XXXXX vin number Ford. some one was restoring a model A and had rebuilt the engine that was originally in my roadster. after a letter to the DMV and a phone call from the state inspector I agreed to have a new assigned vin for my roadster since it is not an original restored car. I just have to take it in and they will giive me a new vin. In the old days if the engine was changed the owner was supposed to go in and have the paperwork updated. I have read that not all A's have the frame number, I have not had the body off to look for a Vin on the frame.
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in Oregon I just went to the DMV, where they set up an appointment for me to see the state trooper inspector dude. he verified there was no vin, issued me a number, and I was back at DMV getting a title the next day. titled as a reconstructed 31 Ford (and therefore no smog or other hoops to jump through).

Russ

BTW: for the bucket T in my "last photo pic" I saw the same trooper. he looked at it and said "looks like a 23 Ford to me" and issued a vin #.
I love Oregon. ;-)
del-a-where is about the same as oregon.. i'd feel safer facing the st trooper for an inspection then go to DMV.. get info before walking in on whats needed.. like engine sale receipt with vin it came out of.. same as tranny and rear, proving it'sn no stolden...
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Definately check with NV DMV first, you MAY find it's not that big of a deal.....or you may find out you're screwed.

Personally if it was me, I'd either pass on the deal or have the seller acquire an AZ title. In AZ the options for the seller are to get a bonded title (and AZ assigned VIN) or possibly go the abandoned vehicle title route. If the seller doesn't want to play there are other cars out there.
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I agree. Go to the DMV. Don't worry about the bonded title...I have one and it has only 8 months to go before it is removed. It is just an insurance policy covering things if there are stolen parts (in a nutshell) no big deal. Except for the $300 to get it. A one time cost. The official title and VIV are a lot more important.

Once again the very first thing in dealing with these streetrods is the title. Today with the computerization of everything it is relatively painess if you follow the rules.

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IF YOU ARE EVER ASKED THE VALUE OF YOUR CAR...DO NOT BRAGG. VALUE IT AS CLOSE TO WHAT THE REAL MARKET WILL PAY. You may have to pay taxes on this value forever.
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