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Old 01-21-2007, 02:18 PM
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lazy yes

why can't people just finish there rat rods! save use the time worry about 'em takeing out bus with kids in it for gods sake !!!!!!!!!

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I'm pretty sure after their short test drive, their going to either go back to the drawing board, or just not drive it.

People have been running without front brakes for a long time, but once you combine this with some aging drums in the back, a body thats scraping the ground, and some of these steering set ups I've seen, yeah, thats a problem.
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may be they aren't that smart

I think we have beaten this topic to death.
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Build something that dosn't look like it will kill anyone...pretty much.
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Old 01-21-2007, 09:20 PM
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I think this is the operative word here.........I have my doubts about the one in the 1st picture. I wouldn't give squat for it.........#2 is a little better. I figure that neither is roadworthy.
#2 pictured is Billy Gibbons(ZZTop) truck.
About the doubting of roadworthyness...To me it looks like #2 is a completely built ride...just no paint. #1 eh...it could go either way.
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I dont care who owns it..........If that thing had a blowout, the body would drop right on the road..............To me, that makes it unroadworthy. Of course, what do I know, I can't even play a guitar.
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Build something that dosn't look like it will kill anyone...pretty much.
I have to agree... LOOKING safe is real important. When Joe citizen gets passed by a safe looking Hot Rod he worries about the driver. When he gets passed by an unsafe LOOKING vehicle, even if it IS safe, he worries about parts falling off in his path.

An unsafe LOOKING vehicle is bad for the Hot Rodders image. A primer coated car looks safer than a car covered in rust. That is just the way it is.
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Umm...yeah, atleast paint it with rattlecan paint. Might temporarily stop rust and it makes whatever your building look more like a work in progress, and less like a pile of parts.

Course, that dosn't mean you could build something shoddy, throw some paint on it and be done.
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I think the "hardcore" rat rodders I see in the magazines are using the car as an additional styling accessory, to go with the ducks a haircut and the polka dot skirts on the girls. On the other hand at least here in Aus, there are quite a few rods built using vintage parts such as A models and early truck bodies with flatheads, unsplit radius rods, undropped axles and sometimes channeling (above the scrub line). BUT all the street driven ones have minimal rust, floorboards and servicable steering and brakes, and those super expensive skinny whitewalls, together with the mexican blanket and big steering wheels and two foot long shifters. Unfortunately the streetable cars are classed in the same category as the undrivables.
If you look at my project album you will see I have a 34 lookalike built with what I had around (just about zip!) if I could have found a body and chassis in even close to reasonable shape I would have still wound up with a similar car, but I didn't. My newest aquisition is a real deal 35 Ford hearse! I could cut it up and hash it up with a six inch channel and get the smoky flathead going and tow it to events, but I won't. You see, I, just like most the other rodders out there actually ENJOY the labour, the smell of rust flakes after they have been cut out, the figuring out how the heck I will fit this and that without butchering the firewall; sussing out steering and the right diff to use, matching the brakes and making as much as I can, then maybe enhancing the body lines to suit my taste and perhaps doing something different with out going overboard. The final reward of driving a car with unique character is worth the months or even years of construction time. Individualism.
As far as getting new guys to the sport, I always stop to talk if a young guy asks me about the cars in the shed or if Im out on a drive. I certainly found hotrodding by asking questions as a kid and as I grew older I read every book and magazine I could lay my hands on forming ideas and laying plans for my future rod. I find the guys who will end up as Rodders are the ones who step up and make the move, to the young fellow that started this thread all I can say is it takes more than money to be a Rodder, your question perhaps should have been " How do I go about making a car like in the pictures" the answer is the same as all us have experienced, study, read, and learn. Find out where the Rodders are stand back and ask questions and for goodness sake respect the guys car (even if it isnt your ideal) and if you arent too much of a pain youll find out most of us will welcome you into the fold. You probably wont do a great job first time out but dont be put off by the nay sayers just do the best you can when you finally get a car to do up whether its an early Ford or a later model, be proud that you are an individual and have a mind of your own. Being a hotrodder is a state of mind.

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As far as brakes go, you can do what I suggested to a friend at a local rod shop. He's building a traditional "rat" style car (really low!!). He's building it right, using some traditional parts (Nailhead engine w/three deuces, Dual-Range Hydro, huge drums all the way around) and some modern parts (air bags in rear only). I suggested he make some "landing pads" in the rear, with the front curved up. If the brakes failed he could always let the air out of the rear...
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rat rods are perfect for some

I have grown up going to "high end" car shows and seeing owners worry about getting rained on, and having their cars get scratched up. I do not understand why people go through the trouble to haul their cars to shows I think it is ridiculous therefore I think a rat rod or low budget hot rod is the perfect solution as long as they are safe, comfortable and reliable, as far as the two cars pictured in the beginning of this thread go, I dont know anything about the first, but I know the builder of the second, and it is a very solid driver, with almost all new or refurbished parts other than the body (Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top actually purchased this car last year), many of these rat rods are not nearly as ratty as they look, and a lot of money are spent on them, however, I think the fun in these are building them yourselves not buying a prefabed rat rod. I will also agree that what people are paying for these cars is crazy! It is not cheap or easy to build a safe reliable hot rod, but it is worth it in the end, and by building a rat rod you will be able to enjoy it no matter the weather or the road conditions.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:05 PM
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How much for a beat up little rat rod like this?

Car #2 is Billy Gibbons from ZZ Top. So Cal built it.
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Rat Rod Truck

A guy from Danville, Kentucky built the truck, Billy Gibbons bought it from him, and now keeps it at SoCal
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:26 PM
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The bottom car is a 33 or 34 pickup. the cab alone is worth more than the entire car in the top pic. the grills are very rare as well fetching high dollars.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:36 PM
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How much for..........

I think you'll find Billy's truck to be a '35 or'36.... Youngster.
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