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I don't want to be a thread jacker but Ray how is the spi universal low voc 2.1 clear that the canucks and cali guys have to use? I have a side project that I would like to use it on.How is the sprayability,hang time,doi/gloss??What speed of hardeners do they have?
I used the universal a few years ago and found slow to be pretty quick in my downdraft booth...

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I can say that I love the way it lays down, I haven't sprayed the non VOC compliant clear from SPI so I can't compare it to that product. I've sprayed a lot of the major manufacturer's clears when we first where mandated to use them...they needed to be worked pretty hard for the most part. The SPI VOC compliant clear for me sprays very close to PPG's old D894 clear (I hope I remembered that number correctly) adn Nexa's 643 clear. If you try the SPI VOC compliant Universal clear, you won't be disappointed. It's by far the best VOC compliant clear I've used.

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Thank you, would you use a 1.3 tip or 1.5 for the clear?
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Actually a 1.4 tip is what is recommended...I have tried a 1.3 in GTI with Universal clear and it didn't give me the finish I wanted...I went to a 1.4 and it worked great. If you don't have a 1.4 and your only options are 1.3 or 1.5, try hanging a piece of masking paper on the wall, have your gun set up and try both the 1.3 and 1.5, the 1.5 will be a little more aggressive getting the material on the car, the 1.3 may not get enough material on the car...so, as I said, try both and choose which one you would be most comfortable with. With other clears I always used a 1.3, Universal Clear needs a bit more material than the 1.3 put out because of it's viscosity.

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Thanks Ray I'll give it a whirl on this old rustang for my buddy.
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I'm sure you'll be very happy with it my friend, I know I am. I was always a big fan of the high end clears from Dupont, Nexa, PPG and had a hard time selling or giving the good points of a product like Omni Clear...and I suppose to some degree I was right. I did have a hard time seeing the a Body Shop get paid the full dollar from insurance company's and use the "economy" product being used.

When I first sprayed SPI, it showed me that quality didn't have to have a big price tag and I wouldn't be and won't be afraid to put SPI product on the jobs I'm doing where the customer only wants the best.

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Thank you, would you use a 1.3 tip or 1.5 for the clear?
why don't you read the tech sheet?
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He may not have received a tech sheet when he ordered the product Josh, I know some of the people in my area that are now ordering SPI didn't receive one when they ordered. It is however a good idea to always get one or to ask for one if it's the first time your using a product, just to be on the safe side, they always come in handy.

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It's available online

http://www.southernpolyurethanes.com/TechManual.pdf
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That's good information, and I probably should have thought of that as well. I can understand what your saying but, some people, myself included, don't even think about going on line and perhaps they, again myself included should get more into the information technology that's available in that format.

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For what it is worth, they have an excellent forum with a small core group of professionals that are active. It also is an excellent source of information on using SPI products. BarryK personally contributes to most threads that warrant his feedback.

I rarely post as I am not a professional as Ray is but I regularly lurk over there and absorb all I can.

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Thanks for the kind words John...I've been at this along time, long enough to appreciate a compliment from a pier and again, thank you for the kind words. I've lurked around and read many of the posts and from the people asking the questions on the SPI forum. If I look at the answers that are given by Barry and knowing how busy the man is, It's even more inspiration for me to help when I can.

John I know you consider yourself a DIY and I respect that, However, I learn much from your posts and build and you sir are a professional. When I get PM's concerning your builds and people have marveled at your ability, persistence and what I appreciate very much is your genuine humility. The lessons that are learned from your posts are very informative, the life lessons in the way you conduct yourself are priceless. John, keep on being you, your a mentor to many people, giving encouragement, advice and ideas on how to do the things that are needed to be done.

I've mentioned this on this forum before, I try and live my life by three words and in the hopes of not becoming too repetitious, I'd like to explain them again for those who are interested. Those three words are Faith, Respect and Trust. To briefly explain, If I ask someone to do something, that means I have the faith in them that they can do it. When they do it, I Respect them. When they do it often enough, I begin to Trust them. John, I've never asked you to do anything but, I have seen what you have done and knowing your personality, I would have faith that you would do..when asked, that deserves Respect...My friend. I have seen you do things more than often enough. You have my Respect.

Again, Thank you for the kind words, just thought I would pass on some words your way, they are earned and well deserved.

Thank you John.

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Thank you Ray. You don't know how much I value your kind words.

LOL. You do realize the only difference between a professional and a amatuer is the proffesional gets paid for what he does.

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So true John, and there are many a "professional" that I've seen that shouldn't get an amatuer's pay...which often is nothing...LOL. Professionalism is much more than being a trained technician with a ticket saying that they have met the minimum requirements to be in a trade. It's how they conduct themselves as well.

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Hi Ray, The SPI Clear went down super easy! Thank you for recommending that product. When should I begin pulling the tape off? Or do I need to wait until it is completely cured? Thanks as always.
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