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How to tell if Halibrand wheels are authentic?

Hi all,

I just bought a 71 VW Super Beetle. The person I bought it from is a VW mechanic, and gave me some background info on what he as done to the bug so far. The bug has Halibrand wheels on it, which he bought off of a cobra junker and had them re-machined to fit the bug's four lug pattern. The wheels are stamped Halibrand on them.

Here is my question: How do I tell whether these are real Halibrand's or the "New Halibrands"?

My dad and his partner owned a machine shop way back when down in Culver City, in the same shop area where Ted had his first shop. I asked my dad if he could remember what the original stamp looks like, but he can't. I can post pics if that would help.

Thanks for reading, any help would be appreciated!

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IMHO ... it does not REALLY matter
I own both old ones and new ones. I believe the newer ones polish up better.

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Are they alum. or magnesium? please post a pic, some of us will try to help. Also, if you look on ebay under Halibrand you'll see all types and some of the sellers post a pic of the "Halibrand" logo cast into the wheel. Maybe looking at those and seeing when they were made might give you an idea.
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Wheel Pics

I have added pics, hopefully they will load correctly. How do I tell if they are alloy or Mags? They are awesome wheels, I had one center cap crack and fall off, (No I did not hit anything ).
Any suggestions on how to find a replacement center cap?
The main reason that I am trying to authenticate them, is that the bug has the historical "Super Beetle Shimmy". It is harsh between 45 - 50 mph. It has been suggested repeatedly that I should go back to stock rims and tire size. These are 6" wide. So if these are original Halibrands, how would I research a value? If they are "New Halibrands" what does that do to the value etc.

Thanks for the help! I have researched multiple sites trying to figure out values and how to tell if they are classics or new ones.

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So hitting the upload button helps for actually attaching pics, go figure.
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I think there the new ones. looks to shiny for magnesium
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I agree with 32bantam, the real magnesium wheels will corrode quickly if not kept polished and they also usually have a faint golden bronze so to speak tint to them. If you look up "Real Rodders Wheels" they make the purest copy of the Halibrand in aluminum and from what they say magnesium but I've never seen one. The alum. copy with their chemically tinted finish is really nice but $$$$$, I think they start at $600 ea.

The real deal Halibrand magnesium wheels are collector items now and fetch a huge sum when offered for sale, you can find some on ebay $$$$$$$$
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Thanks for the help!
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Posting a pic of the rest of the car sure would be nice...
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I do not think it meets the "Hot Rod" requirements other than it zooms along with it's blueprinted and balanced 1914cc engine and has a positraction rear end. I am still trying to figure out why he put a posi rear end on a bug, but hey its sorta cool
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Nice!! never saw a VW with Halibrands, I had a '73 Super Beetle and that looks like the same color that was called "Clementine"
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I do not think it meets the "Hot Rod" requirements other than it zooms along with it's blueprinted and balanced 1914cc engine and has a positraction rear end.
It fits to me.
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Nice!! never saw a VW with Halibrands, I had a '73 Super Beetle and that looks like the same color that was called "Clementine"

That is exactly the color, "Clementine" after the little Clementine tangerines I think!
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