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neil madsen 11-06-2002 02:15 PM

How would red gohst flames look of a black 1980 Z/28(second gen)
I have a 1980 camaro Z/28.Its black already but its going to get a new paint job(same color)and I was woundering how dark red ghost flames would look on the black(my interior is red).I think it would look alright buy I dont know,I havn't seem flames on that type of car before.

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tlambert 11-06-2002 02:43 PM

Neil check out some of the Chroma-Lusion colors from Dupont you might find a color that will show up slightly and a have cool color that changes, There are other brands also, PPG, Sherwin Williams, kinda pricey but doesn't hurt to look and get new ideas! :eek:

neil madsen 11-07-2002 08:49 PM

Any opinions??? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

Halloweenking 11-07-2002 08:59 PM

Alright GHOST flames are done with candy paint and are flames laying beneith the color coat. PHANTOM flames are flames done with pearl essence and regular two stage paint, these flames lie above the color coat. Which are you wanting?


neil madsen 11-07-2002 09:35 PM

O I didn't know that,thanx :) Uh I'm not sure what one?They both sound like they would look good.
Why did you have to tell me that!!!Now my brain is going to fry cause I don't know what one I want now. <img src="graemlins/drunk.gif" border="0" alt="[drunk]" />
Damm you <img src="graemlins/crash.gif" border="0" alt="[crash]" /> <img src="graemlins/crash.gif" border="0" alt="[crash]" /> Just joking :D :D

Halloweenking 11-07-2002 09:44 PM

Here is some help for you to figure it out.

Who will be painting it?

How much do you have to spend?

Candy isn't cheap and neither is easy to spray :D


neil madsen 11-07-2002 09:59 PM

I don't know yet,but if I decide to get my auto body ticket I migh do it my self.I will just keep the car black till then.

Kevin45 11-09-2002 06:19 PM

Check out this article. Ghost flames are flames painted that are such that at certain angles are very hard to see and seem to fade right into the body. Sometimes this is accomplished by using pearl paints that are very close to the body color with a few highlites. Others are done by tinting a clear to change the shade ever so much. Around these neck of the woods either you have two types... the basic flames that contrast the color of the car or you have the ghost flames that are similiar to the color of the car. Then there are variances of the types of flames from the layed look which has flames over flames, tribal flames, etc. By the way, red ghost flames would look good as long as they are done correctly and a deeper red so it does blend back into the black.Here is a good example of ghost flames

And here is your basic pearl flames over a contrasting color


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TurboS10 11-09-2002 08:36 PM

Not sure about those pearl flames. They just look like red flames. The picture looks very similiar to phantom flames that I have seen. I saw a set on a black Dart and they looked very similiar to the chevy picture. The ones I saw were white to blue to red fade with pearl. You could not even see them in certain light.


neil madsen 11-09-2002 11:12 PM

Thanks,those were the kinda flames I was thinking. ;) ;)

Kevin45 11-10-2002 02:25 AM

The red flames are shot over a pearlescent base coat. Camera shots are not the best pics as the real thing close up. As far as PHANTOM flames, Phantom flames are just another word for ghost flames. Do an internet search on both and see what you come up with. Also hit some other rodder sites and check out the different flames. You only have two types and many variations of either. If I am incorrect on this then I can stand corrected on the terminology, just show me some hard facts.


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30coupe 11-23-2002 07:25 PM

I'd say if you think flames would look cool on your camaro, go for it! Rodding is all about individuality anyway.

Red flames on black with a black interior sound awesome to me though, if you just need opinions. :D

30coupe 11-23-2002 07:26 PM

Oops, I meant red interior. <img src="graemlins/pain.gif" border="0" alt="[pain]" />

neil madsen 11-23-2002 09:26 PM

Thanx for your opinion :) :) Wondering if anyone had any pics of red phantom flames on a black vehical.

Will's41 11-24-2002 07:15 AM

No photos here but I think it would look great. I like to use candies, it's not hard to spray in small sections like flames....whole cars is another thing. Go For it!

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