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Old 06-09-2010, 07:25 AM
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Ok guys I tried it..painted a car with Rustoleum from the local hdwre store. The candidate for this was the car we call the Hamburgler which is a 79 Camaro which came around as a Yard find..has a 396 and T-top and some work done to make it a drag car but hardly complete..Someone had started to paint the car at one time and it had a failed job which will need to be stripped anyway so using this car for a paint test is an Ok thing.

We bought 2 quarts of black from the local hardware store. First thing I found is that the paint out of the can has the consistency of Molasses and no way is this stuff going to go through a normal automotive spray gun. I kept reducing the paint in order to get it to shoot and wound up at a one to one ratio of reducer to paint..

Now for shooting the paint i found at one to one reduction it did not cover well at all and when I tried to hammer the paint I got lots of runs..so now I know this is going to take 2-3 laps around the car to get it even in coverage..with recoat times of 4 hours or more it will take 2-3 days to get this thing done.like shooting one coat per day and sanding between coats..Maybe we might get to something that looks decent..Well sorta decent..

Overall results.. waste of time..next time I paint it will be with SPI primers and some decent base coat from somewhere..

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one should have used a home airlesspaint gun system.two dont ever use any other thiner than mineral spirits even then using a airless system you wont need much.three your not saposed to spray but one coat every 24 hours to give the previouse coats time to harden.four sand car with 800grit before spraying to remove clear coat.there are many other things that must be done before spraying but these are the biggies to get a good paint job with rustoleum

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Old 06-09-2010, 07:39 AM
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thats the only photo i have as he sold the truck abou 4 months ago i still see it know and then driving in town
im not sapporting using rustoleum im just saying you can get a good paint job with the stuff and if you treaT it RIGHT itll last for a whill. this is my choice to paint my truck with this stuff . i cant afford the equipment and paint. i live on $600 a month before rent and bills. dont have a garage to spray the good stuff .i can sand any junk that falls in the paint with rustoleum .my truck has allot of rust and rustoleum stops rust in its tracks.rustoleum pro does have a uv inhibitor.if i did have the equipment and a better truck i would do a flame job because thats what im known for i used to live in florida my step dad owned batmans paint and body and i worked there in the early 90s he had me do the air brushing and pinstriping because i had stedy hands and i liked to go crazy on detail.all be it it was 16 years ago since i was in a paint booth. i only done a few whole paint jobs from start to finish but have done allot of finishing touches on allot of cars.if you got the equipment use the proper paints if you dont and your truck is a beater go wild have fun with the rustoleum pro paint .im doing a bumble bee paint job.the only reason im mad is because every body is *****ing that rustoleum is crap which is not the case done properlly the stuff will last and look good.
This is a newer chevy! If it has been 7 years then this truck HAS to be at the newest a 2003. WHY was it painted with rustoleum, which i call BS TOO! Only an IDIOT would paint a new truck with rustoleum!
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OK guys ...here's the thing.......

This board and its moderators will not condone name calling and vulgarity in posts, whether caught by the profanity filter or not...Suspensions and permanent banning are the next steps........Last warning......

Also.......debate on this subject is fine, however there are 3 threads about it (that I know of) on the go right now. I am considering merging them all into one to clean up the board.......just so you all know
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its all beat up paint shop said it would be about $5000 to fix and $1500 to paint so he pounded out most of it and used rustoleum and a bad bondo job to cover about 85% of it .whole passanger side met a light pole. i think his truck was a 2001
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its all beat up paint shop said it would be about $5000 to fix and $1500 to paint so he pounded out most of it and used rustoleum and a bad bondo job to cover about 85% of it .whole passanger side met a light pole. i think his truck was a 2001
Funny thing is....my neighbor has a 2001 stepside....someone ran into the rear fender. Its fiberglass.......
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Yeah and also the PASSENGER side was damaged but he shows a pic of the drivers side.
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This also shows the type of people who do this. People that don't care!
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one should have used a home airlesspaint gun system.two dont ever use any other thiner than mineral spirits even then using a airless system you wont need much.three your not saposed to spray but one coat every 24 hours to give the previouse coats time to harden.four sand car with 800grit before spraying to remove clear coat.there are many other things that must be done before spraying but these are the biggies to get a good paint job with rustoleum
there is nothing special about an airless sprayer, and Rustoleum calls for Mineral spirits or naptha as thinner... if your saying 1 coat every 24 hours, and as per a 'normal' paint job, taking 3 coats. then your looking at 3 days, for a paint job.. right along with what OMT said...

with 'real' paint, you can go 15 mins between coats and not have to sand... theres the old saying, that time is money. so how much are you really saving? a decent airless paint sprayer costs about $100. but at 3+ days of work for somthing of marginal quality.. how does that make sense, when high quality can be cranked out for a couple hundred more, assuming you need to buy or rent the equipment necessary
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there is nothing special about an airless sprayer, and Rustoleum calls for Mineral spirits or naptha as thinner... if your saying 1 coat every 24 hours, and as per a 'normal' paint job, taking 3 coats. then your looking at 3 days, for a paint job.. right along with what OMT said...

with 'real' paint, you can go 15 mins between coats and not have to sand... theres the old saying, that time is money. so how much are you really saving? a decent airless paint sprayer costs about $100. but at 3+ days of work for somthing of marginal quality.. how does that make sense, when high quality can be cranked out for a couple hundred more, assuming you need to buy or rent the equipment necessary
Right on time is money..that is why I clean my metal shoot two coats of SPI epoxy and I am done..when time and money comes around I can then proceed with scuffing priming and blocking..BTW I use SPI turbo for the blocking step as it cures fast sands easy and I can block and prime in a day or two depending on how much fill work is needed..In the shop we do completes in a day if the blocking and bodywork is done..

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there is nothing special about an airless sprayer, and Rustoleum calls for Mineral spirits or naptha as thinner... if your saying 1 coat every 24 hours, and as per a 'normal' paint job, taking 3 coats. then your looking at 3 days, for a paint job.. right along with what OMT said...

with 'real' paint, you can go 15 mins between coats and not have to sand... theres the old saying, that time is money. so how much are you really saving? a decent airless paint sprayer costs about $100. but at 3+ days of work for somthing of marginal quality.. how does that make sense, when high quality can be cranked out for a couple hundred more, assuming you need to buy or rent the equipment necessary
Matt, you don't have to use mineral spirits or naptha to reduce Rustoleum for spraying.
You can reduce with any automotive acrylic enamel reducer,slow,med,fast, you can also add in gloss hardener, you shoot on paint on frame,trailer garbage can(notice did not say exterior of car).
Mix approx 8-4-1 spray on mist coat, let flash, spray 2nd heavier/full coat let flash, spray on 3rd coat, you can even reduce the 3rd coat slightly, for good flow. Use a 1.4 mm tip, on your gun, forget the airless sprayer. This will come off shiny(depends on the prep or substrate surface), and is fine for a lot of items, such as machinery, turd haulers,toilets,mail boxes,trailers etc.
Now I ask any of you who either like this idea, or hate this idea, go try it, on something, then come back with your research and findings.
What is to debate here, don't like this?, Moderators then shut down this thread, don't understand all the banter.
I can almost guarantee, most of the posts on this threads, the writers have not sprayed Rust enamel paint, as I have described, thats why I invite anyone reading this to spray something, any damn thing, then post your pics. Or moderators please shut down this thread, as it just a big argument with specualtors that have no actual experience with shooting this type of enamel, and like most of you think, it's garbage anyway..MC
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when did this become junkers and terdhaulers.com ???
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when did this become junkers and terdhaulers.com ???
When you declared this way back in this thread..........LOL
Honestly Shine, this thread should be shut-down, it is of no value obviously to Guys like you and a lot of others. This type of thing should be where it is welcome, and it is obviously is not welcome here.
So I make a motion to shut down this Thread, anycare to 2 nd this motion..
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When you declared this way back in this thread..........LOL
Honestly Shine, this thread should be shut-down, it is of no value obviously to Guys like you and a lot of others. This type of thing should be where it is welcome, and it is obviously is not welcome here.
So I make a motion to shut down this Thread, anycare to 2 nd this motion..


No way.

This stuff is too funny.

I'm lovin it.
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No way.

This stuff is too funny.

I'm lovin it.
Okay, in a perverse way, we are all havin a good time with it.
So here's the challenge, why not some of the Guys on this thread paint something with Rusto paint as I have suggested, and then post results with pics, just for the fun of it, oh come on. it will be a hoot........
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Poncho: PLEASE DON'T DO IT!!!! Keep the thread going as I am enjoying all the "expert" advice by "real" skilled body persons (using the socially correct term) and their choice of painting materials

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