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Old 05-16-2004, 02:13 PM
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How'd you do your shaved door kit....

I'm looking at options for doing a shaved door kit. There will be 2 bear claw latches, no handles. I will also not have automatic door locks. I will probably have a single pull knob that locks from teh inside only. Just for safety sake. Here's the options I've found...

Shaved Door Kit - comes with 35-50 lb solenoids, 2 remotes, up to 5 additional functions - $100

Keyless Entry - comes with 2 15-35 lb actuators, 2 remotes, 1 additional function. - $40
For the keyless entry it is possible to reverse the polarity on 1 of the actuators, so it tries to pull instead of push, while the first pulls. The actuators must be installed with motor fully extended. Lock button pulls driver's door, unlocak pulls passenger. Downfall of this is the actuator is always extended (not sure about the waer and tear on it) and you can't open drivers door, then drivers door again. Must be sequential.

Door Poppers - basically a spring installed in a shaft that pushs your door open when the latch is released. - $30 I'm currently workin on building my own righ tnow, but havn't had time to really dig into it.

With the first you have the option of controlling power windows (with additional modules), trunk, hood popper, you name it.

Please tell me what you guys think about these options and if you have any other recommendations. I'm hoping to keep this on the cheap. I'd prefer a setup like this....

Alarm with 4 channels of output -
Alarm has shock sensor, horn, and starter kill
First 2 channels control door solenoids, 3rd and 4th control window up and down. Any recommendations for a unit that could do this and cost less than the $100? The solenoids alone would cost around $40 on eBay.

Thanks for any help

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You could use any one of those kits.

The most important thing about shaving door handles is to make sure you provide yourself a secondary method of getting in the car. If for any reason the electrical setup fails, or your battery is dead you need a way to get into the car without breaking a window.

If you are going to mount your battery in the truck you can simply run each side of the car on a separate circuit with the passengers side wired directly to the battery with an in-line fuse (in the trunk near the battery). That way if the primary (drivers side) system fails you can still get the car open using the passenger's side system. If you're not going to use a remote then a simple button in the trunk will work. If your battery is located in the engine compartment you can do the same thing, provided you can get into the engine compartment from outside the car.

The odds of both servos failing at the same time are extremely low so mechanically you don't have a problem but electrically you could. You need to run two circuits fused separately, and make sure you can get to the battery in case you need to jump it. Also make sure any fuses for the secondary system and the button can be reached/replaced without needing to get into the car. Otherwise be prepared to break some glass to get in if something fails.

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I got mine from Summit, made by VPA costs $119.69, check it out under part num. VIA-80158DP. 15 pound solenoids and door poppers included.
Personally I would not do it over given the chance.
The receiver can be picky and not work, so a concealed button cannot be relied upon.
I´ve learned how to break into my car using wire found on the street, two times.Now I carry a hatch key with me in my pocket and get in through that if I leave the remote inside the car.
Don´t put the second remote in your pocket for emergencies,
I did that, sat in the car and the door popped open, too much pressure in my pants
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Hi. take a look at this Kit : http://www.tuning.no/div_lys_og_el.htm

Its the only i can get in Norway :-(
And its expensive too.
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Old 05-23-2004, 12:36 PM
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If only I could read it!
Order one from Summit, they send it right to your door.
I would´nt dream of buying through a third party here in Spain,
what a rip off.
I can get four tires for the price of one here from Summit,
and thats paying import as well.
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Ok. thanks,
found it :-)

http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...r+kit&x=15&y=8


my car is a Mercedes 190, but i will order a 2 door kit.
How many Pound Solenoids for this car do you think ..
15 or 35 ?
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I got a ´86 Camaro, 15 pounders work okay.
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or you could go on eBay, get a Spal Amenity door kit w/ 7 extra channels and 35 lb solenoids w/ 2 remotes for around $80 shipped...
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ok, thanks, i will take a look at eBay
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Anyone use the set up from autoloc? It's pretty pricey, but looks like a quality setup, will the option of 100 pound solenoids.
Found the link in classic trucks magazine... just thought I'd pass the info along!
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I've got the autoloc setup with 50lb solenoids on all 4 doors with poppers and a 7 channel remote. I had a shop here put in another set for me (30lb 5 channel remote) and it had alot of problem opening my doors plus the guy did a shoddy job, about a month after he installed it it all died so I ended up getting a 4 door autoloc kit off of eBay and it came with 4 of the poppers also and there is a HUGE difference. I immediatly was able to tell that autoloc ones were EXTREMLY better. Also I had the problem with the doors unexpectedly popping open also so I just shaved off alittle of the buttons so that they are sunk in a little bit and I haven't had a problem since
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What would the 100 pound solenoids be used for? Just older, harder to open doors? Or just for better security of unlocking.

Great, thanks for the info on autoloc, they seem like a good company!
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All the solenoid does is is pull the lever that the handle used to pull. I can get some pictures of them installed on my car if that would help any. I have no idea what the 100lb solenoids would be used for, the 50s work fine for my car.
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That would be great if you could get picture(s). I understand better, and learn better with picture as references.
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here ya go. Here is the solenoid in the door, the solenoids are self grounding but on the back doors I had to add grounding wires to make them work properly.
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