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Old 02-11-2013, 02:52 PM
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Hyper Pistons with a turbo?

Anyone done this before? I got a set of brand new kb silvolites dish pistons laying around the garage, wondering if its worth running on a low boost engine something around 5-7 psi maybe 10ish. cr with the heads sould be in the 8:2something area. I can get a part number later today.
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Anyone done this before? I got a set of brand new kb silvolites dish pistons laying around the garage, wondering if its worth running on a low boost engine something around 5-7 psi maybe 10ish. cr with the heads sould be in the 8:2something area. I can get a part number later today.
If you want it to live you should run forged pistons. Starting at 8:2 is fairly safe if you keep the boost down. If you detonate them they will break.
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Yeah I've heard these pistons tend to shatter pretty easily.
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I forgot to mention they are for a 383 stroker.
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Detonation will bust a forged piston too. It just fails differently.
Most all OEM cars that are turbo charged or supercharged use a cast or hyper piston.

If you hammer on any piston hard enough-long enough it will fail.

The boost is not hard on a piston. Detonation is. A failed piston always means you did something wrong.

Many many sucessfull supercharged-turboed motors have been built and run with KB hypers.

If you try hard enough you will find a way to bust one.

Can you build a turbo motor that won't hammer it self to death?

Are you willing to put decent gas in the tank? there is no free lunch.
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Run 93 pump gas, wouldn't mind doing water meth too.
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Throw a few gallons of race gas on the weekend mixed with 93.
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But the more I can just run on 93 and use a water meth kit the better!
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how many turbos? are you planning on 750 plus hp?
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Just a single, no more then 500 550. I just want a really fun street car that will run 11's and can drive it anywhere and everywhere.
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A roots blown motor is a lot more fun.
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You can run 5-7 psi on stock cast pistons without worry. 7 is pushing the safe limits. You can do it.

Do not detonate. Play the curve safe.

A roots is the cheapest way possible to get that level of power.
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The only way you will break a cast piston in a blower motor is either detonation or ring end butting.
Avoid both and they will take a lot of boost.
When combustion is normal its not hard on the piston.

The top ring end gap has to be bigger with a KB piston in a blown motor.
Build and tune the supercharged engine so it does not knock under WOT boost and
the pistons will out live you.
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You can run 5-7 psi on stock cast pistons without worry. 7 is pushing the safe limits. You can do it.

Do not detonate. Play the curve safe.

A roots is the cheapest way possible to get that level of power.
I'm not sure why you think a roots blower is the cheaepst route, or why Fbird think that they're more fun. There are a LOT of ways to make good power, some cheaper and some more costly.

Nothing wrong with a roots blower but is far from the only show on the block.
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To tear apart a engine , get a cam , heads is more expensive. A roots 144 is under $1000. You can easily double the output of a stock 290hp long block.

A good piston , cam, head combo cannot take that pepsi challenge.
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