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Riot Racing 07-03-2009 08:59 PM

I can't get the window cranks off: 54 Chevy
 
Guys,
Im sorry to ask such a dumb question but, I have been yanking on these things for two days. I can't get the window crank handles off from my 54 210. Is there something I'm missing, like a clip? or set screw or something?

I checked my shop manual and googled search like crazy. What am I doing wrong? Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated.

DanTwoLakes 07-03-2009 09:27 PM

Welcome to my world! Your question is not dumb at all. All older door and window handles have something holding them on, usually a pin or a wire clip. Your handles all have a "Jesus" clip holding them in place, and you need a special tool to release the clips. (called a "Jesus" clip because when one hits the floor and disappears, the next two words out of your mouth are "Jesus Chr**t!")

I will post some pictures tomorrow morning of the clips and the tool needed to remove the clips and handles. They can be a real bear to get out. I have had to literally destroy door panels to be able to get at some of these clips.

cobalt327 07-03-2009 09:28 PM

Use this TOOL to pop the "C" clips

The clips have ends on them that allow the tool to spread the clip open and off of the shaft at the same time. VERY EZ w/the tool, a real b***h w/o the tool, w/the added hazard of tearing the door panel should you try to use a screwdriver, etc..

cobalt327 07-03-2009 09:30 PM

Sorry DanTL, I was typing as you posted.

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Originally Posted by DanTwoLakes
Your handles all have a "Jesus" clip holding them in place

I likey! LOL

matt167 07-03-2009 09:55 PM

the way I do it.... take the tool and insert it behind the crank.. turn it until you feel it catch in the grooves.. tap it with a hammer just a bit and then rotate and twist.. it'll pop the clip into a second position and it will click back on when your ready.... after clicking it on, you can ither leave it and it should hold or.. twist the clip back carefully, which will seat the clip fully and lock it in

Riot Racing 07-04-2009 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobalt327
Use this TOOL to pop the "C" clips

The clips have ends on them that allow the tool to spread the clip open and off of the shaft at the same time. VERY EZ w/the tool, a real b***h w/o the tool, w/the added hazard of tearing the door panel should you try to use a screwdriver, etc..

Dan is this the same tool you were referring to?

Would an auto parts store sell one of these? I can't even see that damn clip, this is definitely going to suck!

DanTwoLakes 07-04-2009 07:37 AM

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There are different shapes to the tool, but this is what you need. These are handles from the period your truck was built in. Here are pictures of the clips and how they go into the handle. Once the clip is fully seated in the handle, you just push the handle back on the stud. The clip catches the first groove and holds the handle on tight. You can see that the clip goes in from the back side of the handle, so the tool needs to go under the handle or crank, slide into the groove that the clip is in, and push the clip back to release the handle.

DanTwoLakes 07-04-2009 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobalt327
Sorry DanTL, I was typing as you posted.

I likey! LOL

No, I was typing while you posted. No problem.

DanTwoLakes 07-04-2009 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot Racing
Dan is this the same tool you were referring to?

Would an auto parts store sell one of these? I can't even see that damn clip, this is definitely going to suck!

You might be able to buy one at an auto parts store. I buy them from one of my suppliers. They are readily available on line, also.

You need to push in on the panel, because there are springs that push the panel back against the handles. I usually leave those springs out when I put the handles back on. It will take you a while to get the first clip to release, but once you get one to go, you'll get the hang of it and the next one will be easier.

AustinPhoenix 07-04-2009 08:09 AM

not for my handles
 
I bought one of those tools for my car. The first handle came off before I realized what happened. After that....the tool didn't work.

After about an hour messing with the next handle, I moved on and posted on here. Seems that some of these tools are too thick and/or too narrow. You might have to take the tool to a bench grinder.

While I was fiddling with the tool, my dad grabbed a wire hanger, went outside, and came back in ten minutes later with the rest of the handles and said, "Do I have to do everything for you?" lol What a *****! haha Love that crazy old man.

I'll see if I can get him to show me what the hell he did and how he bent the hanger.

DanTwoLakes 07-04-2009 08:14 AM

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Here's another tool that works from the opposite direction. If you're really lucky, you could catch the clip with an ice pick and push the clip back.

cobalt327 07-04-2009 10:29 AM

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In any event, the tool I showed is one of several "correct" tools and that's what really matters AFA the OP's question. The type I pictured is available at most any parts store- they're not made of unobtainium.

NAPA has them for sure, so does Auto Zone (Performance Tools DOOR/WINDOW HANDLE TOOL Part No. W80646/T70602, <$5.00). The other stores likely carry them too, but call first.

Pliers-type clip/moulding removal tools shown below, 45-50 years ago KD made the p/n 43C shown on the right but it has been superceeded by p/n 35200.

Riot Racing 07-04-2009 12:35 PM

Jesus Clip
 
I got them! Thanks for the pictures that was really the biggest help of all. I just used a flat head screwdriver to knock them off. It took about 10mins to do the two rear ones. I'm breaking the car down in sections to help me stay organized.

So the next thing for me to do, is weld up the floor where I cut out the rust.
Then Im going to cut out any other sections of rust that I find, not really anything else on the floor. But the metal between the windows and door panels is in really bad shape, do they have a patch panel for that?

Riot Racing 08-24-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanTwoLakes
There are different shapes to the tool, but this is what you need. These are handles from the period your truck was built in. Here are pictures of the clips and how they go into the handle. Once the clip is fully seated in the handle, you just push the handle back on the stud. The clip catches the first groove and holds the handle on tight. You can see that the clip goes in from the back side of the handle, so the tool needs to go under the handle or crank, slide into the groove that the clip is in, and push the clip back to release the handle.

Where could I get some tools like this? I am really really struggling with the front handles

DanTwoLakes 08-24-2009 12:57 PM

Here you go: CLICK HERE The tools I posted pictures of were parts of two or three sets I have bought over the years. There are all kinds of sets available from Harbor Freight, Northern Tool, etc. Here is another link: CLICK HERE The Lisle 35200 works about the best of all the choices.


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