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dsan1 04-28-2011 10:17 PM

I just found an old relic of an early 1900 ?
 
Hi everyone! I just joined today mainly because I happened across this old vehicle out in the sagebrush, that remarkably is in pretty fair condition for how long I imagine it had been sitting there. I can't find any numbers, letters, or any other markings that might help to identify it.
It sort of looks like a Ford model, but after spending a few hours looking at pictures of all the old cars from1900 to 1940, and nothing matched what I have.
It has a single flat windshield intact. Short nose front end made of solid wood and wrapped in metal. Passenger door has no dents, complete with exterior pull handle and roll up window.The lock handle inside on top,inside door handle, & window actuator handle are intact and still work. There is another window behind the door on the corner of the back end that is curved glass still intact.
The mullions where the doors latch are mortised on both sides with hardware to accommodate another door to latch, but there wasn't any other doors around.
The top of the car and around all the windows is lined with wood and was finished natural.

Without a picture to show,l that's about it. Anybody have a clue what it might be?

Thanks , Doug Email Me

techinspector1 04-28-2011 11:51 PM

Probably a home-built of some kind. An OEM factory car would have identification on it SOMEWHERE.

327NUT 04-29-2011 01:17 AM

It's Gabby Hays chuck wagon......he lost it sumwhar!

dinger 04-29-2011 01:22 AM

The curved rear window, was it flat glass or curved as in convex? I can't think of any old cars that had curved glass, Tech is probably right, it may be a hand built car. Grab some pics, you've got me curious!

dsan1 04-29-2011 02:21 AM

I can rule out home built just for the fact that the joints in the wood were not made in someone's backyard or cabinet shop. I've been a carpenter for 37 years and haven't seen these interlocking tongue joints for quite a few years, and only in expensive furniture. Maybe you could order the stuff pre-done,that's a probability.
I'm kind of leaning towards an electric car now only because I haven't seen any traces of an engine. Like exhaust pipe, gas line, tank, and crap like that.
And yes to answer the question about the curved glass. The glass is slightly concaved to go around the back corner. I'll try to send a picture tomorrow.

Thanks Guys!

Doug

sqzbox 04-29-2011 03:15 AM

Sounds like one of those old time cars from Disney land. :D They had no power train at all but were pulled along a road route through a scenic landscape by a trolley cable hook on the road. You could turn the wheel but it still followed the road and there was no speed control. That might account for the no number thing. :D

Centerline 04-29-2011 08:44 AM

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dsan1 05-30-2011 03:00 AM

Mystery car solved
 
I didn't think it would take me that long to find a match to satisfy my curiosity, but I gotter done.
My son-in-law came over last night and helped me out and we came up with some pictures to compare against each other.
What really baffled me was the curved glass in the back corners and why was there fabric remnants and crap on the outside of the car.
It wasn't the outside, it was the other side of the divider wall that seperates the driver from his patrons in a limousine.Which also made sense on the double door mullions.
Near as I can date it from what was stock on the limo per year, I'm pretty sure it's a 1923 Imperial Sedan Limousine. Since none of the vehicles back then marked or stamped the car bodies anywhere, it's pretty much an investigative procedure to try to figure it out.
Wish I had more pieces and parts, but I don't. I did get the passenger door window and latch working like new. The passenger side is in good shape, along with the glass.

eloc431962 05-30-2011 07:08 AM

Pics please we need pics. :eek:



Cole

LS-57 05-30-2011 07:34 AM

It's all speculation without pictures but I can tell you that a lot of the extremely high end stuff from Europe did have canvas bodies or at least partial canvas bodies. Some (very few) even had concave or convex glass as well.
It is highly unlikely but check out old Rolls Royce, Duesenberg, Bentley, Bugatti to name a few.
Pictures, pictures
If it is one of the ones listed above provide a location in a private message as well :D :D One can only hope :(

dsan1 05-31-2011 07:45 AM

Okay , Here are some Pictures
 
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I must have taken 50 pictures but these are the only ones that are half way decent and show anything at all.
Anyway, check em out....................


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dsan1 05-31-2011 07:57 AM

About these pictures
 
I also just wanted to add that after careful inspection of the windshield, rear concaved window, and passenger door window, there aren't any signs of any one of them ever being replaced.
As far as the door goes, the metal on it doesn't have any dents on it at all. And the latch and window opening and closing work like new. It took a little bit of special care and a lot of anti rust spray.
Oh yeah and the windshield swings great too.
I also have a full piece of the black pleated leather that covered the divider wall on the bottom half. Hard to believe that it isn't all in pieces. Although it is pretty damn stiff and shrunk up!

dinger 05-31-2011 12:09 PM

I've googled (images) Reos, Oaklands, Dodge, Oldsmobile's, and a few more, I can't find it. The door handles and the back window should be a dead give away, I will look more later.

dsan1 05-31-2011 05:57 PM

This is the best link I've found
 
Yeah this site really cleared up a lot of questions. Try it out, it's really informative and full of pics.

http://motorera.com/cadillac/cad1920/CAD25S.HTM

:pimp:

Hippie 06-01-2011 05:33 PM

There were scores of custom coach builders back then, could be one of those.


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