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Old 03-14-2005, 04:57 PM
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i want my own brake lathe

i want my own brake lathe. does anybody out there have one of their own? how much did it run? where can i get a used one cheaper?

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Old 03-15-2005, 12:22 AM
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Are you wanting one to turn rotors? At the price of rotors nowadays it is just as cheap to go buy new ones, than to go through the hassel of having them turned and risking warpage. You can't turn a flywheel either, they need surface ground. But if you are wanting one...good luck with your search I am sure that you could find one collecting dust at most brake shops around.
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Old 03-15-2005, 04:45 AM
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Brake lathes are nice to have. 25 years ago, I got a heck of a deal on an a bunch of Aamco stuff. A combo-lathe, Little Hustler rotor lathe, a shoe- arcing grinder and all the tooling that went with them. I found 'em in the paper for $2500 and drove 150 miles as fast as I could to get 'em. Back then I was heavy off into brakes and I made a killing, on the weekends doing carry-in rotors and drums. six years went by and I got burnt out in the brake business and wanted a boat, so I sold the whole works to a local machine shop for a thousand dollars more than I paid for them.
Even though they took up a lot of room on my wall, I still regret, every time I spend 15.00 on a rotor turn. Shoe-arcing grinders, these days, are nothing more than boat anchors and most all imports and domestics have throw-away rotors that can be replaced for little more than what it costs to turn the old ones. I thought I would beat the trend and peddle my stuff while it was still worth something. What I didn't realize is there will always be a need for them, especially when I like dealing with a lot of the older stuff.

I miss my brake equipment like I miss my old dog.
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Old 03-15-2005, 09:14 AM
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At $50+ a pop for most drums I'd hardly call them throw aways. It pays to hang on to old drums and scour the jyd for good ones, especially the aluminum drums off of '80s GM cars.

One a separate note, I had to show the kid at the shop in Social Circle how to mount the drums and operate the lathe so I wouldn't have to drive 30 miles to get them done.

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drums and rotors

I agree,, I would rather turn a gm ford or mopar rotor rather then buy a $18.00 china replacement. I have used those low dollar replacements with out any issues tho...... It's just my preference....

Spinn,,, just keep you evey on the public sales and e-bay etc you can come up with something at a good price that should get you rolling....

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Old 03-15-2005, 11:23 AM
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I had an Ammco 4000 series combination drum and brake lathe. I sold it in November. The real problem with it is the fact that new cars have such thin rotors on them that many times you are better off to go with new ones, and you can buy new ones mighty cheap.

Many new rotors are "composite" and require special fasteners ($$$) to properly set them up.

You can buy a used Ammco for around 1500.00 bucks with standard cone set, but you need more than that and it still takes time to turn rotors.

O'reilly's turns mine for six bucks each. That's the way I do it now, I let them turn em, and I just bolt em on.
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As far as I know, all Ford rotors are turnable. I worked for the dealer for a little bit, and I never heard of any rotors that we couldn't turn. So that could be a good part of your side jobs.

I gotta imagine most GMs are the same.

If you are buying it for yourself and family cars, I wouldn't waste the money unless you find one for really cheap.

If you are going to make a small part time business off of it, then it might be worthwhile. Although what can you really charge to turn them? $10 a piece max I would think.
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check industrial auctions, thats were we get most of our stuff. what do you want one for cause they are not cheap. you might get lucky and find a little engine lathe for around $500, but then you have to find a way to bring it to your house, and they usually take 220 volts. where are you located, i might be able to help you out.

PS those auctions are good for more than just lathes, most machine shops have mills, welders, plasma cutter, even cars. a while ago i posted a thread on a auction in Michigan with racing motors and all sorts of tools and what not but no one responded, i bet whom ever went got a lot of stuff for cheap.
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:10 PM
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At $50+ a pop for most drums I'd hardly call them throw aways. It pays to hang on to old drums and scour the jyd for good ones, especially the aluminum drums off of '80s GM cars.
Larry
I thought I said most ROTORS nowadays are throw-aways.. and those finned aluminum drums go back a lot further then the '80's - the earlier finned Buick drums are still cool on the old school open fendered cars.
If the rotors on a newer front wheel drive, mid size to compact car is the least bit scored, the way I look at it, it's junk. Manufacturers have minimum reconditioning thicknesses on rotors.The solid rotors that come on just about all front wheel drive cars these days are already almost there. Most of them have little to no way to dissipate the heat - they're solid. That' combined with the Hard-as-a-rock metallic pads that come as OEM equipment on these cars usually tears up the rotors big time. Once the two surfaces on a rotor get out of parallel even .005, you can expect major pedal hop and pulsation while braking, before the pads are even half worn out, the second time around.

I've got my own rule of thumb on turning these newer rotors. If they don't clean up by the time .010 comes off each side of 'em they get replaced. I used to take all my 'dead soldier' rotors to the swap meet and peddle 'em for beer money but it just made me feel WAY to guilty... They sold too well.
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Ok, sorry. I'll be clearer. What I meant was that while rotors may be cheap the drums are not, so it pays to hang on to the machines and the old drums.

I do realize the value and appeal of vintage Buick finned aluminum drums and I am aware of the fact that they were made well before the '80s, however, I have never seen them in a junkyard full of '80s GM midsize cars so I didn't feel that it was necessary to mention them in my post.

Excuhuuhuuuse me for not being crystal clear .

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i would use it for sidework. i had napa turn mine and they turned them in groovy records. or they will tell me there at min thickness. bs i mic'ed em. i worked with lathes for years. they do a fantastic job. you get those cheap china rotors that are warped out of the box. i have been a fan of the factory rotors or parts in general.

a mill and a plasma cutter those i could use too. TOYS
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Spinn,If you are looking for something for imports.I bought my lathe off ebay.It is the snap-on quick lathe that the dealers use.I think I paid 600 or 700.It beat the new price.It works fine.If I can,t turn them on the car then I go to a parts store too.I agree I like turning them myself also.
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we have those at acura. jack the car up and let the engine turn the wheel. they cut well and you dont mess with the flange, so its true on the hub. i like the fully size for the versatility
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these are the types of auctions we recive every day:


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03/29/2005,
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Coast Machine & Repair
1602 South Coast Highway
Oceanside CA United States

Summary of Items:
Lathes, Mill, Grinders, Saw, Broaches, Tooling, Inspection, Forklifts, & Gantry Cranes.

AC Ashman Co.
Email This Auctioneer:
http://www.machinetools.com/mt/RFQ/RFBAuct.tmpl?auctionid=1110896967111712733&dealeri d=AUC10346989167027600

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http://www.machinetools.com/mt/Phone/index.tmpl?AddresseeID=AUC10346989167027600&Type=A uct&action=getphonenum

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