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Old 04-26-2007, 03:51 PM
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Idiot Proofing My Trailer Wires

Hey Y'all

I am looking for a way to simplify & idiot proof my trailer wires .

I know I know its only 7 wires!
But Dammit to hell it gets confusing.

To Start I need a 7 or 8 circuit box it either fuses or circuit breakers Why Because I'm tired of chasing burnt wires because some one Else's trailer is wired wrong.... Different.

Now if I were to find such a circuit breaker set up how many amp breaker would you recommend I put on each line?

I have a 12 volt battery for my winch. that I like to run what some use as the "reverse" lights the center of the 7 way to power my battery/winch

AND on top of that I have a 12 battery for the break away box .

so I am looking for I guess 2 circuit boxes one for the truck & one for the trailer.

They need to be the same I have this one box that I pulled off a old boat that I thought was promising with a couple of relays in it but I have too much spaghetti as it is .

I need to keep it simple

ANY ONE got what I am looking for or do I have to build it because no one in this area even gets what I'm talking about.

Hell they don't even know what 7 stranded trailer wire is{well 1 guy he want $5 a foot for it!}

Another thing I fon't get is why don't the color codes on the plug match up with they way the wires really need to be
UUUUGGGGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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When I built my trailer----way back in the 80s----

I actually ran some 1/2" electrical conduit down the length of the trailer.
At the second crossmember next to the "A" tongue, I mounted 4 fuses.
(should be able to get these breakaway fuse strips at Radio Shack)
Left & Right Signals, Taillights, and Electric brakes.
I just used different colors of 14ga stranded THHN electrical (home Depot) from the fuses back to the lights and brakes, and for the section that plugs into the truck---(my plugs are six pin round) some cable similar to SOW wire with 5 conductors. I cannot remember if I got that cable from the Home Depot or a trailer supply.

This has been in use since 86, with no issues, except with the occaisional ground wire breaking on the truck side. I finally got tired of that so I now use a piece of wire with heavy-duty aligator clips to connect the truck and trailer ground now.

I am not sure, but I have never seen a 7 conductor wire that is colored the way it is supposed to be---yellow, green, brown, blue, white, red, xxxx.

yel grn brn blue wht red ???
Left, Right, Tail, elec brakes, ground, Aux, ?????

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Old 04-26-2007, 06:29 PM
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see this kills me!!!
black to be the power?! Ugh!

I found a nice fuse block but no circut breaker blocks

ATO 12 leads with ground bar {sweet} for $32.fiddy



Kool Site

Jack Rabbit

Really KEWL Site

cooper bussman {i mean really kool}









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Black 12v
My guess would be RV trailer lighting---which would almost make some sense
Cause somwhere it might tie into AC wiring----
Not too sure about this
No RV
I prefer a motel with satellite

I believe the 7-pin plugs are designed for RV use and Semi trucks

5 and 6-pins for the people moving horses, cattle, cars and such

4-pin really light trailers with out brakes-----Boats

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Well I guess I'm on my own here, I know the next SOB that scabs or chops my wires is gonna lose a finger or two!.

Off to get some more wires.


Oh By the way those Ratcheting crimper's seem to work pretty well $25. @ Auto Zombies

Thanks Bryan!

I'll let ya know if I get it idiot proofed like Kevlar sheathing with current interruption, monitored GPS allert with instant response.

Ill hook a damn tazer into it !go mess with my wires

mumble mumble grumble


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Hey Bryan!! Check this Chit out!!





Now how come with all the truck drivers & mechanics here @ HR.com I had to find this on my own?



Oh well wish Id found this 20 years ago!!!!!




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WOW

Never saw one that was that big----most are the little 1-1/4 DIA

That thing looks to be 3+inches-------is that other thing a fuse block??
For those that dont mind cutting donut size holes in the bumper---that connector shoud be very good for big heavy wires and monster winches.

Now----tell us where ya got it

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WOW

Never saw one that was that big----most are the little 1-1/4 DIA

That thing looks to be 3+inches-------is that other thing a fuse block??
For those that dont mind cutting donut size holes in the bumper---that connector shoud be very good for big heavy wires and monster winches.

Now----tell us where ya got it

Bryan
Doc here,

Commercial Vehicles, Class A RV's, Commercial Mobile Generators and power plants, COW'S, marine applications and (what I deal with a lot) Mobile Television production trailers and news vans, will all use these type or "Arc~Tite" fittings..Retail they can get a bit spendy..

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NAPA!!



$40!!!!!


Ididn'tnotknowallthatwasstuckbehideoneofdemdarethi ngs!

I have not got it yet

the 2nd thing is a junction box for trailers but no breakers or fuses

although there is a nice multi port breaker set up she showed me in the book that will work nice with it

I still cant get ever that breaker thing its SO kool!



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Doc here,

I have a NICE bullet proof DIY project for this..that looks good, performs well ( already better than my EX offered me ..) And will last longer than a Roach in a garbage dump..

BUT I depends on how serious you are about it, and how much you want to spend to make it right..(Hummm...Something my Divorce lawyer told me..)

Requires some minor welding, (well, maybe..) , Enclosure drilling and mounting, grinding, painting (sounds like my EX getting ready for a date..)

Conduit runs & Bending, $45 Fazools worth of Resettable Aircraft type Klix~On Breakers, 10 or so feet of 8 Conductor S.O. Cord (where you got your plug at) About $75 Fazools worth of Misc Hardware, and About, Between 100 and 150 fazools for a proper steel, water tite / vapor tite enclosure.

The real killer is the cost of long, 10 and 12 gauge wire runs..wire cost has gone through the roof..

Anyway..If your REALLY serious about it, willing to spend the scheckels to build it, I'll post it..It's not hard to build..but it' ain't cheap either..BUT you'll only have to do it once

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Well as I've spouted previously {all my life}

I'm Not Cheap Just broke.

I am always up for bullet proof!

Yep er!

Along with my head lamp redo times two {Burb & Beast}
It will get done some day Just don't know the date
LOL

But I can start putting together the pieces & parts.

Please don't keep me in suspense much longer

I have a few ideas bouncing around in my head ,but I'm certain they will not be as elaborate as yours.








Is this Doc Vette ~~

or Duke the dog selling off the secret family recipe?


LOL





OK I'm Ready.



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Doc here,

Ok..,

Let me Finish typing it out in notepad..about 1/2 way done...(it aint short of steps either..) and I'll post it Monday or Tuesday back here..

I grew up in the age when WWW, HTTP, JPG, BITMAP, Meant ONLY one thing..you weren't going to pass typing class AGAIN this year..

Hunt....peck..Hunt...Peck...

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Thanks Doc!




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Might be cheaper just to quit letting people borrow the stinkin trailer. Or at least charge them a hefty deposit.

Or maybe make up a "trailer simulator" so you can at least test their setup before your stuff gets toasted.
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Might be cheaper just to quit letting people borrow the stinkin trailer. Or at least charge them a hefty deposit.

Or maybe make up a "trailer simulator" so you can at least test their setup before your stuff gets toasted.

YEP ER!!

From now on if you want to borrow my trailer it comes with my truck & me driving & you footing the bill Cha Ching$$

My Profit or My pleasure Sorry 'bout yer luck!

I have a home made version in my mind, I have see a kit , A one man check kit for like $300.00!

Damn thats expensive for a checker

Good Ideas thanks!




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