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Old 10-08-2013, 10:23 PM
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ig blue filter and cfm ???

have been thinking about changing my filter setup and mounting the HF filter with a flexzilla 3/8 hose threaded into it .
I was thinking about removing the 1/4 regulator as I was thinking that it was a big restriction on flow before the 50 ft hose . What your thoughts on these filters do they support the cfm of some of the guns ? Also do u guys run High flow fittings on your guns or standard fittings

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Anytime you increase the inside diameter of a hose or a fitting your going to get better air flow to your equipment. This can be crucial, especially for a paint gun. The amount of flow you get is only as good as your smallest opening (or, as strong as the weakest link). With a 50 foot air hose, your getting a lot of restriction as it is, the longer the hose, the more restriction. The ID of the hose should be a minimum of 3/8th of an inch as well. Whenever I plumb a paint booth or painting area, I opt for 2...25 foot hoses on either side, versus 1 real long hose. Long hoses are also a PITA...they get tangled up, stuck on anything that's on the floor, tires, parts stands whatever...with 2 hoses, you can unplug on one side of the vehicle after it's been painted and plug into the other side to paint that area.

But Yes, increase the opening size of your regulator to start...you will notice a big difference.

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I under stand the restriction a small orfice is a restriction and something in the middle would make a choke point. I really want to know if high flow fittings are needed as i see several people using normal fittings. Also will the HF filter flow the needed cfm demand or is it a cheap china knock off that dosent flow
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High flow fittings are nice...they improve air flow...do you need them. No, if you have a good air 3/8th inch air line with 3/8th inch fittings and couplers things will work...if you have something in the chain that's smaller like 1/4 inch...it would be a good idea to replace it with a 3/8th inch piece...that's an increase in size of 50% from 1/4 to 3/8...3/8th to 1/2 is only a 25% increase.

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Well the production 3/8 air hose has 1/4 npt fittings .i. can make a hose but the restriction is still at the barb that slides into the hose.
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You can get high flow couplers and fittings...even in 1/4 inch. This site should also help explain...the 1/4 inch high flow have larger ID than a standard fitting.

Hi-Flow Coupler Kit - TP Tools & Equipment

I hope this helps.

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Ok i know about those. But look at the way a hose is made if the hose id is 3/8 u have a barb or shank fitting that pushes in then you crimp the fitting. So ure restriction is in the shank at the hose end. I understand fluid and air flow. I have a full line of parker teflon . Hyd. And non conductive Hose racks of fittings that have all diff id in the fittings all for the same size hose.
My question realy is Dose the hf sharpe knock off flow well enough and how many in the industry use high flow fittings or will the normal fittings meet the needs of a Nr ? Never thought about it until i read last week
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I wouldn't be able to comment on HF Fittings...what I can tell you is that there is a difference in performance from regular fittings and high flow fittings. I have a friend in Alberta who is a Rep for Milton...I called him and spoke to his wife...she didn't have a great explanation, or any idea of what I was talking about....LOL...but said that her husband should be home shortly (within a few hours) and she will have him call me so that I can give you a more detailed explanation.

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I am talking about the big blue air filter/regulator combo that harbor freight has. Its a copy of the sharpe. I have amflo And parker fittings on all my air tools. Sorry been typing on my phone so i mess up alot
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I have used the HF filter you are talking about before and it is a good regulator, the filter however is not very impressive. If you need a regulator and have a filter to use after the regulator then that will be fine. If you are buying it for a regulator and filter then I would recommend something else. I personally like and recommend this filter for paint set up
Motor Guard M-60 1/2 NPT Submicronic Compressed Air Filter - Amazon.com Motor Guard M-60 1/2 NPT Submicronic Compressed Air Filter - Amazon.com

As for the hose, I use a 3/8 flexzilla 50' hose for painting and have no problems supplying plenty of pressure and volume to a Sata RP. Set the regulator around 100-125 PSI and use a regulator at the gun to set the pressure for the gun. Hope this answers your concerns.

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