At Thirdgen.org on a message board we have found out that GM used "left over" parts in some of there last production runs such as the L98 and L48
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senior member Fevre is quoted to say

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and another senior member KYL98

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just if anyone is interested

Saw a 66 Chevelle recently at a hot rod run. It was a 2dr post car with a ZL1 all aluminum 427, 4 speed M22, no air, no power. I was facinated by the car because it looked so factory. The owner informed me that it was, one of only a small number of Chevelle's (less than 10 in his words) produced in 66. I had never heard of such an animal, and consider myself pretty educated on 60's Chevy muscle cars, but I didn't refute his claim. I have since been able to find no information to substantiate the claim. It sure was a sweet looking sleeper with small hubcaps and redline tires.

Vince

D M N, It happens all the time, just not GM. I work at GM , The only reason they will shut down a plant is if there are out pf parts and there's nothing to interchange with it. It cost more to shut down the plant. There's alot of times we run out of plain rear windows and we put in one that have rear defog in. free to the customer. Other stuff we run out of is windshields so we put in the windshield for the heads up display.
It cost less to put better parts in the car then change it out later.
Cost of repair, might damage the painted surface. might tear uo more that it cost just to leave it in there. so that's what they do.
Also if it gets shipped to the dealer and they change everthing the cost is twice as much.

i thought it was funny when i first read it i didnt belive they would do that but its funny

I love to hear this stuff....What escapes from the factory....??
The only thing I would be apt to doubt is the 66 Chevelle.
The ZL1 was only installed at the factory in 69 and in 66 might only have been an engineer's idea! Could have been a dealer installed RPO 427 Impala motor though!

Yea, i knew that when I saw the car, but this dude was a big guy and I wasn't about to debate it with him. If it was just some ones creation, it sure was a nice job though.

Vince

Ahh yes, You are like me. Only disagree with someone if you are quicker or stronger!!!!

AHHAHA

Sometimes things do slip out ........I believe we can all argee on that BUT............ most of the time I believe it is the owner trying "TO LIE UP" his or her mismatched clone/creation.

We have all seen

1) 67-69 Z28's with A/C, powerglides or something FAKED.

2) there must be 350 64 Ford Fairlane ThunderBolts

3) All the original HEMI cars now that Chrysler is repopping Hemis

4) My all time favorite..........1970 SS 454 - 450 LS6 Chevelle FAKES.

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This is fast becoming the all time fake. Ten years ago I did a 69 Camaro Z/28 clone. It was complete down to the console and everything, right intake , carb ect (but a 350). Only hitch was it had factory AC. I sold it five years later (with the buyers knowledge it was a clone) and bought a new 90 Chevy truck. The new owner of the car had it repainted from silver/black stripes to black/silver stripes. He then traded it for a new Chevy truck from the local Chevy dealer a few years later. They then put the Z/28 clone on the showroom floor as if were an original Z/28. When I head about it I went to the dealer to see. Sure enough it was on the showroom floor. I started looking at it when a ****y young salesman comes up and says "they don't make them like that any more". I said what you mean. He said 69 Z/28, they are rare. I said yes they are, but this is no Z/28. He got beligerant in a hurry when I told him they didn't come with factory AC. He really went ballistic when I told him I built the car. The owner of the dealership knew it wasn't a real Z, but just had it on the floor for show. I had a good time with the salesman though.

If you are looking for 69 Z/28, you better well know what your looking at, there are some very good clones out there. Just checking the VIN number is not good enough, they have been known to be transfered from totaled Z/28's

Vince

I believe there are more FAKE Z28's today than real ones left!



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Anymore I just smile and nod, then walk away. People are always telling me about "all original, one owner '69 Z-28's with the original 396................" or some other figment of their exaggeration. The sad part is in my youth I WAS around some truly rare cars but there are so many BSer's out there most people won't believe somebody when they know what they're talking about................

I know what you maen Hippie. My senior year in high school me and my best friend were working half a day at the local Chevrolet dealership. We were working the service drive, parking cars and retreiving cars for customers. This was 1969 and the muscle car wars was full blown. I remember like it was yesterday when the first 69 Z/28 came into our area. It was blue with white stripes. After it was serviced it was placed on the showroom floor and had a window sticker of $3,100.00. As a 18 year old kid I was absolutely taken by the car, and still am today. It stayed on the showroom floor for a total of three days I believe before it was sold.

Vince

I bought a new 1967 Camaro, 350 4-speed non air non power, non power steering, red with the white stripe around the front, two years later, my girlfriend had a 428 1968 Shelby mustang, spun a bearing in it and she asked me to help her R&R the motor, she had found another, so I pulled her aftermarket cam and 2X4's and stuck the new motor back in. I kept that CJ motor at my dad's garage, and when he passed away, I re-found it in the corner, less cam and intake. I rebuilt it and put it on Ebay for sale, and I have had a lot of flack about it being an 'A' block instead of the 'C' as shown in all the stories printed about them. That motor cam out of a Shelby, because the total story was her brother had bought it brand new, was getting a divorce and sold it to his sister, so I'm on solid concrete knoledge about Ford using what was available to get them finished and out the door.

Interesting stories (thanks for bringing a long-lost thread back to life...), and I'd be pretty sure we've all heard or seen a similar tale pass us by. Kinda like when I bought my '78 Monte parts car. On the way home with it on the trailer, I needed gas in the truck. Some younger kid (about 16-19 maybe) asked what it had under the hood. So I told him it came with a very rare factory option, engine and transmission delete. I 'bout knocked the pump over laughing so hard when he said he'd never heard of that before......


In a while, Chet.

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