Impossible head bolt! HELP! - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Engine
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 12:36 PM
JMSTOY's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: The death of Blue
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 89
Wiki Edits: 17

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Impossible head bolt! HELP!

So I'm taking the heads off my 78 350. I have two top head bolts that are stuck TIGHT! I'm mean tight, I broke two sockets on them, and they are starting to get a little rounded, so I stopped. I also hit it with the impact, to no avail. And tried to carefully heat the block around them, but no dice either. I'm stuck, please help.
Zak

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 12:42 PM
poncho62's Avatar
Out of the Loop Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Streetbeasts links
Last journal entry: at car show
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover, Ontario, Canada
Age: 62
Posts: 16,848
Wiki Edits: 5

Thanks: 20
Thanked 243 Times in 198 Posts
Sounds like the threads are binding.....Might have to grind the head off the bolt, lift the head off and work from there.
__________________
Ontario Rodders
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 12:51 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: fort wayne
Posts: 85
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
stuck bolt

this same problem happend to me, i grinded the top of the bolt off then used a pipe wrench to take out the bottom half of the screw the smaller pipe wrench didnt do the job bigger one took it out with ease. good luck
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SSPX1250%20(Small).jpg
Views:	148
Size:	28.9 KB
ID:	62302   Click image for larger version

Name:	SSPX1251%20(Small).jpg
Views:	119
Size:	29.4 KB
ID:	62303   Click image for larger version

Name:	SSPX1252%20(Small).jpg
Views:	135
Size:	32.0 KB
ID:	62304  
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 01:03 PM
JMSTOY's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: The death of Blue
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 89
Wiki Edits: 17

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It's the bolts between the spring and lifter. And the other one is the corner one that's recessed in the head.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 01:36 PM
Blazin72's Avatar
You got a leaky spark tube...
 
Last wiki edit: Rearend removal
Last journal entry: General Lee
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Union, WA
Age: 32
Posts: 2,868
Wiki Edits: 19

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Are you using six point sockets?

If all else fails try center punching the head of the bolt and drill it just enough to get the bolt head off.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 04:44 PM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: May 2009
Location: S/E Michigan
Posts: 653
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Use impact sockets and a big breaker bar, not thinwall chrome. Try to tighten the bolt a bit first, then remove. If no luck, drill the head as mentioned above, and break the top off, then remove the remnants with a big pipe wrench.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 06:36 PM
JMSTOY's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: The death of Blue
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 89
Wiki Edits: 17

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Done!

All this talk of drilling out the bolt and stuff, I got kinda pissed at the prospect of all that work for one bolt. So I went to Advance Auto and bought a 3 1/5 foot breaker bar, and these awesome sockets that remove stripped bolts. Having a little fire under you does wonders, it jerked right out. On a forum I read, it says that this came from the seal failing, and coolant getting in the grooves. Then mineral deposits formed that "cemented" it in. When I pulled it, I can see why, there was more mineral deposit than thread. I tried to get a pic, but they all turned out bad. Anyways, thanks all for the help!
Zak
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 06:45 PM
matts37chev's Avatar
I don't understand?
 

Last journal entry: this is only a test
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shelton,Wa.
Age: 45
Posts: 2,420
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
glad you got it

stuff like that really sucks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 07:00 PM
JMSTOY's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: The death of Blue
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 89
Wiki Edits: 17

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by matts37chev
glad you got it

stuff like that really sucks
yeah me too! It was the last step on the top end teardown! I guess being pissed helps!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2012, 07:26 PM
Blazin72's Avatar
You got a leaky spark tube...
 
Last wiki edit: Rearend removal
Last journal entry: General Lee
Last photo:
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Union, WA
Age: 32
Posts: 2,868
Wiki Edits: 19

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
There you go. Our suggestions pissed you off enough to get the job done. That means we accomplished something!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 02-01-2012, 03:31 PM
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: My Last Hot Rod
Last photo:
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 264
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 15
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Longest Breaker Bar

was when I was in the heating business I used a 12 foot black pie over the handle of an Aircraft Aluminium Pipe wrench on a 2 inch pipe on a steam boiler it finally came lose.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 02-02-2012, 03:22 PM
surfmurf's Avatar
SurfMurf
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Clearwater, FL.
Age: 75
Posts: 14
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Stuck Head bolts

I use BLASTER for all my stuck metal and it works great. MUCH better than WD-40 or others. Like any good "medicine", it looks bad and smells a bit too, but with a little PATIENCE and maybe 2-3-4 soakings, I get 'whatever' out. Been working on problems like this for over 50 years. Do this before grinding head off. Use NEW bolt set when replacing heads.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 02-02-2012, 04:30 PM
1971BB427's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Latest changes
Last photo:
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Portland
Posts: 1,410
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 11
Thanked 207 Times in 178 Posts
I'd guess what caused the bolt to seize was it had no thread sealant on it when assembled and the threads go into the water jacket. I've had them snap off nearly flush, but they don't take much to get out once the head is off.
I keep a set of lefthand drill bits just for these scenarios. Drilling the broken remaining bolt progressively larger with a LH bit does a good job, and when the hole is large enough the bit usually catches it and turns it right out without an easyout.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 02-02-2012, 09:19 PM
matts37chev's Avatar
I don't understand?
 

Last journal entry: this is only a test
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Shelton,Wa.
Age: 45
Posts: 2,420
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1971BB427
I'd guess what caused the bolt to seize was it had no thread sealant on it when assembled and the threads go into the water jacket. I've had them snap off nearly flush, but they don't take much to get out once the head is off.
I keep a set of lefthand drill bits just for these scenarios. Drilling the broken remaining bolt progressively larger with a LH bit does a good job, and when the hole is large enough the bit usually catches it and turns it right out without an easyout.
I hear everyone say how well the LH drill bits work for them

I have had a set I got from snap-on for years and years
I think they have worked twice,
I almost always have to use the ez-outs still
(but maybe they are loosing it up for the ez-outs)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 02-02-2012, 09:27 PM
stich626's Avatar
gearheadslife
 

Last journal entry: The TwoTonShu #10
Last photo:
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 372
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
next time.. take an air hammer and let it pound on the head of the bolt a little, this breaks the bond.. and out zee comes
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Engine posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
t-5 tranmission hard-impossible to shift BMM Transmission - Rearend 4 02-23-2007 12:56 AM
what looked impossible for me to accomplish! chop52 Introduce Yourself 4 12-16-2006 10:05 PM
Is this Impossible Stardrey Engine 1 04-25-2005 08:57 PM
Ever work on the impossible? johnsongrass1 Hotrodders' Lounge 16 08-20-2003 01:59 PM
Mission Impossible NAIRB Body - Exterior 5 02-02-2003 11:56 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.