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Old 04-03-2014, 06:29 AM
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Now you have quit preaching and started meddling................

I have had those vice grips on my tension bolt for 20 years.

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No John, I meant the toggle clamp works like vise grips do..LOL ...
all my vise grips are holding my car together...its always nice when I pull it in to do some work and find a few pairs that I forgot about ...I,ve got one pair that's been clamped on the window reg for about five years but 20 ....that's a long time...
BTW.....if you guys need a great source for cheap hardware like sprockets,gears ,shafts etc....try surplus center or McMaster -Carr They got all kinds of cool stuff at a great price, everything you need to build a bead roller. As soon as I get a little time I'll be building a motorized bead roller with a 3' throat.....

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No John, I meant the toggle clamp works like vise grips do..LOL ...
all my vise grips are holding my car together...its always nice when I pull it in to do some work and find a few pairs that I forgot about ...I,ve got one pair that's been clamped on the window reg for about five years but 20 ....that's a long time...
BTW.....if you guys need a great source for cheap hardware like sprockets,gears ,shafts etc....try surplus center or McMaster -Carr They got all kinds of cool stuff at a great price, everything you need to build a bead roller. As soon as I get a little time I'll be building a motorized bead roller with a 3' throat.....
I actually bought my sprocket from surplus center. You are right the do have some cool stuff. My sprocket was machined wrong though.

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this is about far as I go on it but I will probably spray some 2k undercoating on it. Rubberseal makes one that looks like a semigloss. I think that would look cool.

Model T steering wheel with the original crank butchered to fit the shaft and used as a shaft collar that's welded to the steering wheel. The handle of the original crank is also welded to the tensioner bolt. Used 1 square stock to strengthen it and also welded in pieces of it as gussets for strength. It works great now!

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Are those the embossing rollers you made ? I've never done any of that but I'd like to....how did you make them and do they work well?
That's a pretty clever use of the original hand crank ,mine is still sitting in my pile of useful steel...(most people call it a junk pile)
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I used 49 cent brackets form the steel supplier I use from the wrought iron parts aisle . the toggle clamps are about $ 10 from Reids or other suppliers.
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HF dies.

My son bought a short throat bead roller and ,put on a high speed electric motor to remove insulation from scrap copper wire. It has a guide and the wire runs between 2 flat rollers. I got all the dies he did not use. I tried recontouring some on the lathe and was suprised how hard they were. even after heating them to anneal they were still harder than I expected from harbor freight
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Are those the embossing rollers you made ? I've never done any of that but I'd like to....how did you make them and do they work well?
That's a pretty clever use of the original hand crank ,mine is still sitting in my pile of useful steel...(most people call it a junk pile)
no, the ones I made weren't true. It could have been because they were 7/8" washers and not 22m. I grinded them down on my "lathe" (angle grinder) to shape them. The problem was when I was welding the washer to the collar, right on the bead roller rod itself, I had to center it as best as I could before tightening, and that was the problem. Get 22m washers if you try it. The ones I made actually work better than these Hoosier ones performance wise but since they are not true they apply a lot of pressure on the tensioner bolt and I didn't like that so I got these. Had I known, I would have asked them to round the edges on these a tad. I might place another order with them soon and see if I can send them in and have them round the edges. Would really make them the cat's meow.
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Tim are you left handed? I noticed your shafts are mounted on the opposite side as mine...
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My son who has put the most miles on it is left handed. It was really an opps. I had it all apart when installing the drive motor. I use 1 in solid stock for tool mounts and have trailer hitch type receivers around the perimiter of the 4 ft southworth lift table, some square and others at a 45* angle . also some on tool stands and on the flat bed truck and trailer. It's handy for a portable vise, rebar bender, pipe vise , etc.
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That does sound like a good idea.I bolted my vise down to my welding table and its always in the way when I work with the bigger stuff.
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I had a few minutes of play time today so I welded a bracket to mount my 5.00 HF laser. sometimes you need to stop a bead at a precise spot, the laser makes it EZ to see where the centers of the shafts are for exact starts and stops.
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I don't mean to de-rail this Thread, but I since it came up (Dies) I thought I'd ask:

Where is everyone getting their Dies?

I purchased my tipping Dies (and others) here:

Bead Roller Dies

And, after looking around, I found these guys (but I don't know how good they are, and the pictures look a little suspect):

TraDa, llc - "The best way to roll"

Anyway, maybe you know a better source (or, make them yourself)-
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Do they fit the HF bead roller? I'm using the ones that came with mine...but my shop neighbor is a machine shop with a CNC lathe, hes making me a set of stackable dies but I figure if I bug him enough he'll teach me how to use it and I'll make my own...

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Lazze has one of those lasers on his english wheel video , a grid on the sheet metal then it;s easier to get equal angles each pass with pushing and pulling the sheetmetal.
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Yes, they are made specifically for the HF Bead Roller! Hoosier Pattern (it used to be called) has been making them for about 8+ Years or so (I believe they may have been the first to do so)-
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