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Old 08-07-2009, 07:24 AM
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installing MSD box,coil and distr.

I pulled the old distr. at TDC I hope well it pointed to the #1 cyl after I plugged the plug hole with a finger and it blew it off. So I tried to drop the new distr. in and it either falls short of my mark or passes it, it only falls short by 1/2 inch or so kinda pointing at #3 cyl. Do I just drop it in and start it and then adjust time? Looking at the harmonic balancer the timing mark is pointing to 10 degrees retarded {past the 0 mark} can I screw something up by starting it or what should I do, I dropped the old one back in and it fell right into place? Is there a easy way to turn the oilpump without sticking a screwdriver into it, that is difficult to find the notch sometimes and then if I turn it too much when I try to turn it back it is not enough is there a trick to lining up the oil pump? Thanks

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There are other ways, like having a helper bump the starter as you drop in the dist., but the easiest way that doesn't rely on someone else doing something perfectly, is to just use a long s-driver and turn the pump drive just a bit. Try it. No? Turn it a bit more. Try it. Et cetera, until it simply drops perfectly in place.
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OK but will that not jump my time out, and is there a trick to getting the button in the exact place it should point?
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OK but will that not jump my time out, and is there a trick to getting the button in the exact place it should point?
The oil pump has nothing to do with the timing. Just turn it a bit and test. Usually 2 or 3 tries will get it
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OK but will that not jump my time out, and is there a trick to getting the button in the exact place it should point?
If you have marked where you need the rotor to point, you should turn the rotor backwards so when the gears engage, the rotor will turn to the exact place it came from. I'm sure you've noticed how the rotor turns as you lift the distributor out of the engine- same thing occurs as the distributor is dropped into position in the engine, just in reverse.

The only snag in this, is that the oil pump drive shaft can sometimes be out of position to allow the distributor to fall into position the first time you try to install it. That is where turning the oil pump drive shaft w/a long screw driver, a bit at a time, until the distributor's drive tang matches the oil pump drive shaft's slot. Turning the oil pump drive shaft will not effect the timing.
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Well I now have the distr installed, and I have fuel and sometimes FIRE backing up through the carb. And if I bump the motor to get the oil pump in line is what I mean by, "will it jump my time", I know if I turn the oil pump with a screwdriver it doesn't effect the time but if I bump the motor to drop the distr in to the oil pump slot it WILL move everything out of TDC, will it not? And I am guessing I am 180 out, is that because my piston was just a hare off of TDC? Should I remove the distr. and find TDC again and drop it in again and see if it is better, the distr button pointed to #1 or 5;30 standing in front of the motor,when I dropped it in, so I don't know if I should turn the cap slightly to find my sweet spot, or do I need to pull it and try again?
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Pull # 1 plug
Put finger over hole
bump engine until it blows finger off hole
Bring up timing mark
Drop distributor in pointing at # 1 plug wire
Start car
Set final timing
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