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Old 07-19-2007, 07:45 PM
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An interesting couple of things I learned about the Superbird and Daytona.

This past sunday at a car show I saw a very nice Super Bird. I talked with the owner a while (ended up being an old customer of mine) and learned a little about these rare and interesting cars. There were two things that surprised me. One was that the nose on the car is steel! That blew me away, I never thought about it, but assumed they were fiberglass.

The other thing was that the rear window was changed for better aerodynamics. They used an "adapter" that was welded to the roof. Now, that is what I think was done, I didn't ask at the time, but I assume it was steel. I found a few on the net with steel and I also found this picture of a fiberglass one.

Anyway, the darn car used a "Cuda" rear window! And it had these funky pot metal little "covers" that screwed down on the tops of the quarter panels where the "old" roof tapered down to at the top of the deck lid.

The first photo is a Charger, but the Roadrunner had the same rear window. Check out the neat photo of the Cuda and the SuperBird, see how the rear windows are the same. I thought that was just way cool.

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i can't believe they didn't sell a lot more of those cars. i love the way they look.
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i can't believe they didn't sell a lot more of those cars. i love the way they look.
They are as wild as you can get!

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A friend of mine just sold one with original paint. Brian did you notice the crude decklid stops they welded in to limit the decklid travel so it doesn't hit the spoiler. These cars were thrown together fast.
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i can't believe they didn't sell a lot more of those cars. i love the way they look.
Believe it or not but dealers couldn't give those things away back then. Everyone knew they were built just to qualify for Nascar and the prevailing opinion back then was that they were just weird looking.

Just goes to show that sometimes what people think is junk is eventually worth big $$$$ and everyone wants one.
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Growing up on the base my dad was stationed, an officer had a Superbird. My Air Force brat buddies and I used to laugh at it. We didn't understand what the hell the deal was.

I don't laugh anymore and I fully understand now.
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Bob, I didn't notice that. I did notice how the hood was lengthened. But it absolutely blew me away when I noticed the spot welds on the back side of the nose. I had always thought the darn thing was glass.

Centerline, yep, could you imagine if you knew what was going to happen? I had the chance to buy an all steel 32 Roadster for $4000 and a totally done beautiful Phaeton for $10,000 about 1976. But the ones that blow me away the most are the TWO 289 AC Cobras that my brothers boss sold around 1978. One was one of only four automatic cars ever made. It had four side draft Webbers on it, a show quality car, $18,000. And the real kicker, a factory sponsered race car, trailer and all for $10,000. But it might as well have been the $million it's worth now, I am not any closer to buying it!


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The rear window opening was left unfinished/crude and was the reason for the vinyl top to hide it.

1970 TORINO KING COBRA

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Another little known item is that they also made a '70 Charger with a regular nose and no wing but with the "bubble" rear window, I believe it was called the Charger 500. Saw two of them years ago at the CC Street Machine Nats parked with several Daytonas and Superbirds.
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The rear window opening was left unfinished/crude and was the reason for the vinyl top to hide it.

1970 TORINO KING COBRA

Yeah, the owner of that car mentioned the vinyl top thing to me. If you look close on the one in my post you can see a little "wahoo" next to the window. A number of cars did that back in the seventies. Late seventies Dodge "Magnums", and some other models had quarter window changes where it was a plastic "adaptor" that was stuck into the larger hole in the roof, "glued" in, then a vinyl top put over it. Nice!

Now, the "King Cobra" is one that I know nothing about, I have seen them, but know nothing. Was it sold like the Daytona?

I have seen a number of "Taladega" Torinos, it two was a hodgepodge of parts. It had extended fenders with a header panel out in front of the hood where the regular Torino had none, and then the kicker, a narrowed rear bumper in the front! They did what they could with parts laying around didn't they?

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Everyone knew they were built just to qualify for Nascar and the prevailing opinion back then was that they were just weird looking.
Don't beat up on me too bad but I still think they're weird looking. I know they're worth a lot of money but if I were going to keep it I'd rather have the Charger in the first picture. I just think it's a much nicer looking car.

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Did you Know that its the Road Runner/Super Bird that the E .P .A .bought to Follow behind commercial jets to collect hydrocarbon samples?

In a way the Road Runner/Super Bird had a hand in the end of the muscle car era. I sure wish I could remember where I saw this obsolete fact..


DOH!!! HERE IT IS!

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Don't beat up on me too bad but I still think they're weird looking. I know they're worth a lot of money but if I were going to keep it I'd rather have the Charger in the first picture. I just think it's a much nicer looking car.

Danny
I agree entirely. I've tried to like these cars for years but still think they look like some boyracer's project.

Rob Keller, they have had a segment on one of the Powerblock TV shows about that car a few times now. It's one of the favorite reruns they seem to show.
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Here's a Charger 500. I believe it was the predecessor to the Charger Daytona. Notice the flush mounted rear window and flush grille. The grille was from a Coronet.
http://www.musclecarcalendar.com/Car...r/MoparsP6.htm


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