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Can anyone tell us about John Deere's Blitz Black paint?
like:
- A specific primer needed?
- Or no primer needed?
- 1 coat or 2+?
- A reducer needed?
- How good of a paint is it?
- Please any and all personal and professional input will be appreciated. I and we have a couple of choppers and rods to do in a flat paint.
Well I got all my paint, prime and reducer today. For a gallon of each, JDBB, Buff primer, and reducer the grand total was $66.55 after tax and all. Gonna try to get to the fial pain next weekend, primer this weekend. If I like it, I may do the whole blaze in BB not just the top. I am taking pictures along the way so will post up when I am finished...(Literally)..imp:
All you guys suck. Why is it that when i need to look for something, its always on the first page i look at on this forum. You do not let us do any searching or research for our selves. DAMN...alleast make me search for something every once in a while. You make me sick-:welcome:
I will be painting my 86 cutlass in this blitz black here in about a month, hope it looks good. i have never seen a g-body cutlass done this way. i have some surface rust, and am not ready to paint. the car sat for about 4-6 months and the sun got to it. so i will sand, take all chrome pieces off. and see how it looks in suede. i have some wheels from a late sixties model cutlass (15x8), will spray those also.
do yall think i should do the bumpers also, or do you think it would look OK with em chrome.
Also, what process would i have to go thru to get the bumper to accept this stuff? Would i have to strip the chrome off..
Don't paint those nice chrome bumpers!!!!!!!!!! Keep 'em chrome, they'll look awesome with suede black.
Also don't paint the wheels. Save up for some nice lowrider rims or cragar ss.
Don't paint those nice chrome bumpers!!!!!!!!!! Keep 'em chrome, they'll look awesome with suede black.
Also don't paint the wheels. Save up for some nice lowrider rims or cragar ss.
Mike
Please do not associate me with lowriders of that class...ain:
and i think the cragars are done...imo
I have the supreme wheels, there not the chrome 442 wheels. not much in the bling side of things...
id like to put some 14x6 in front and have the 15x8's in the rear. interior is a mint dark blue. i have the whole interior of an 87 442 mint, ready to go in.--i may keep my the org door panels
Please do not associate me with lowriders of that class...ain:
and i think the cragars are done...imo
I have the supreme wheels, there not the chrome 442 wheels. not much in the bling side of things...
id like to put some 14x6 in front and have the 15x8's in the rear. interior is a mint dark blue. i have the whole interior of an 87 442 mint, ready to go in.--i may keep my the org door panels
i have a couple bad pics with stupid wheels on it,,, when i first got it a couple years back...let me get the link
ill get more tommaro when im at the shop,
the paint has gotten worse, previouse owner had cheap paint job that look good for about a year. im goin to black out the front plastic chrome for now, when i get all blitzed.
i have a couple bad pics with stupid wheels on it,,, when i first got it a couple years back...let me get the link
ill get more tommaro when im at the shop,
the paint has gotten worse, previouse owner had cheap paint job that look good for about a year. im goin to black out the front plastic chrome for now, when i get all blitzed.
my brother had a 82, it had the 6 in it.
the body was straight and rust free, just not our stile--we junked it. keeped the stearing column -tilt (for sale)
ill dye the top black also just to match till i repalce it...
Man....I remember this thread!
Well my 32 Ford had JD Blitz Black for about 24 hours. The look was good.....but......my painter showed me where he took his fingernail and lightly went over the finish and it left a mark. This was the next day. The paint scuffed very easy and I figured it would look like crap in no time. He showed me a customers car where he painted the roll bar and dash with a gloss black acrylic enamel with a flattening agent. It was tough as nails and had a nice suede / satin finish.
This was my experience with JD Blitz Black. I know its very inexpensive. But for the time it takes to prep a car for paint, I would rather do it with a paint that will look good for a long time for a few more dollars.
Totally forgot this thread. I did indeed get the top painted with the BB, it actually turned out really nice and is hard as can be. After all primer and paint work was done I left it in the garage to cure for a week prior to installing back on the blazer. I'll have to find the pictures on one of the CD's I put them on. At this point I have floorpans to do in about 3 weeks, then the front end conversion parts should be here about a week after the pans are in, finally I will get to the final body work on the "blaze"(K-5). The whole thing is going to be BB, this stuff is an easy application and tough as nails. I'm sold on it.
Man....I remember this thread!
Well my 32 Ford had JD Blitz Black for about 24 hours. The look was good.....but......my painter showed me where he took his fingernail and lightly went over the finish and it left a mark. This was the next day. The paint scuffed very easy and I figured it would look like crap in no time. He showed me a customers car where he painted the roll bar and dash with a gloss black acrylic enamel with a flattening agent. It was tough as nails and had a nice suede / satin finish.
This was my experience with JD Blitz Black. I know its very inexpensive. But for the time it takes to prep a car for paint, I would rather do it with a paint that will look good for a long time for a few more dollars.
I know that this is an old thread, etc but I remember reading this thing when it first started. Yeah I have never been signed up on here, just have always read all the threads on this forum, etc but thought that I might as well sign up. Anyways, I am wondering on that quote you put up MRGM, is this true will it scratch and leave a dull mark? I know flat black spray can paint all does that and it scratches VERY easily and leaves a dull mark. And by scratching it I don't mean it leaving a big deal scratch mark, I just mean a dully white or grey mark. I did my interior with 6 dollar Krylon flat black spray can paint and then used 99 cent crappy paint and all these other ones and every kind of flat black I have used so far does that dull scratch type of thing.
Does this JDBB paint do this? If not then my plans are to paint my 66 Ford truck in flat black and then tape out flames and do a clear over that to have gloss black flames. Think this will work? Any info? Someone told me to put a clear under the JDBB paint because everyone keeps telling me that any flat color is still pourus? True or False, what's your oppinions? I really don't have much money to spend on paint right now since this is my everyday driver and right now I am putting my money into the tranny, engine, suspension and lowering the thing.
Thanks a lot and great forums you guys have here. I like the fact there isn't that much complaining.
Shawn-
Skip the tractor paint IMO. The absolute best singlestage satin black urethane I've ever used is Sikken's Autocryl Rally Black, it is very durable and will not mar. It comes with the flattener already mixed in, just add hardener and reducer and you're ready to spray. Very nice looking satin paint. Bob
Hi guys, Im doin a JD black paint job and was wondering what would happen if i just do a 8-1 mix of paint and reducer instead of the 8-1-1 with paint, reducer and hardner? Thanks for the help...im lookin for the advantages and disadvantages and if it will even work well...
I've sprayed it both ways. The hardener didn't seem to make it super scratch resistant. I like the look. It's not for everyone. Its your ride, do what you want.
The f250 has no hardener in it over the John Deer primer. It has spent the winter outside. The paint has came off the tailgate where the shovel has drug at least 12 yards of gravel accross it. I smacked the side of the bed with a one man rock and it knocked a chip off. Otherwise looking good, shows some scratches here and there. Nothing bad though.
I was undecided on the paint for the Nova so I shot it in BB. It has hardener, the Valspar,I think, stuff they sell right next to it at the JD dealership. I welded up the trim holes then sealed the car in some epoxy, then a little high build to smooth it out. I sprayed this during a cold snap this winter and relied on heaters to bring up the temp in the shop, but I think it cooled off once I started spraying. I had a hard time getting the paint to lay out on the Nova. I'm not sure if it was too cold, or improper technique. The Nova paint doesent seem that much harder from adding ther hardener.
The million dollar question.Would I do it again?
Depends. Low buck cars, or short term projects may see the blitz treatment.
My 66 Nova wagon will get flat clear. If I put the work into the body that pristine car deserves, I'll be sure to cover it with the best materials I can find. The wagon should be with me long term.
Well, I just read almost every post in this thread....I learned alot about this JD paint. I just finished using Valspar DTM black primer on the front panels of my 57' , and I used a PCL black primer on the rear quarters....I was told they would match up and look the same. WRONG! The PCL is ultra flat, not what I am going for. I definately want a little sheen to the black, so I may try more DTM or possibly this Blitz Black. For the price, I'll try to locate some and do some practice panels on some other projects.
I decided to paint my Harley with BB and got lucky my local dealer had the paint and primer in stock and had it in quarts. I'm glad I didn't have to buy the gallons. Will post pic when finish. About $16 for both. Not bad at all.
hey guys i thought i'd contribute my blitz black pictures to this thread. Thanks for all the great info from anyone who's replied in here, i read every post before i sprayed and it helped! it was easy to spray for anyone who's wondering, it was my first time painting and doing body work and it sprayed on fine with no runs or anything, i'm going to wetsand it in a few days and see how it turns out, i'll let you guys know! here's the pics, thanks again
here's a before picture
here's after jdbb
and here's one i'm particularly proud of
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