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Old 05-29-2004, 07:07 PM
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Barry, you raise a interesting point, inadvertantely. Your air craft paint, it has to be built strong to with stand all the abuse you get in the air, so if it is so tough, how easily will it strip down to be painted if someone decides they dont like it anymore.

But as far as the durability of BB, like I said, come take a look at our tractors, not a mark, nearly 30 years old of being a loader tractor on a cattle ranch in North Dakota. It has stood up to mud, gravel, sand, cow crap, snow, pressure washers, probably had just about every fluid imagineable spilled on it inadvertantly, still not a chip, flake, or signs of rust. I dont know what you would call that but I call it pretty dang durable. It may not be a skydrol test but its real world testing for me, and I will always trust that more than "lab" tests.

Also if people are spilling thinner, reducer, and brake fluid on their cars, they dont take very good care of their car in the first place, and probably wouldnt care.
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Old 05-29-2004, 07:18 PM
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Barry, you raise a interesting point, inadvertantely. Your air craft paint, it has to be built strong to with stand all the abuse you get in the air, so if it is so tough, how easily will it strip down to be painted if someone decides they dont like it anymore.
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Air has nothing to do with it or speed. Skydrol was used as a hy-fluid years ago and concern was it would drip on the paint and paint would flake
and get in engine and plane would go down, Skydrol is close to
Dot3-4 brake fluid. They no longer us skydrol for EPA reasons but the test is still used for saftey. Paint stripper will remove and sand blasting also.
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Also if people are spilling thinner, reducer, and brake fluid on their cars, they don't take very good care of their car in the first place, and probably wouldn't care.

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He said this stuff would hold up to anything, I didn't -but these items would not hurt the epoxy short term that was said to be no where near as good.

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Old 05-30-2004, 02:22 AM
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OK. I have been reading this thread on BB too and others elsewhere for quite some time, along with articles on adding flattener to Bling paints for achieving the same look.
The majority of the opinions seem to be positive on BB. But most of the praise is about the finish color and ease of touch up and not its ability to withstand a nuke blast.
Being that its cheaper than dirt most guys would probably just re-shoot the problem area with spray bomb and its good to go. It looks good and I doubt anybody is going to have their car for 30 years anyway. I think the stripping problem is pilot error and is not the norm.
My current project is a Rat Rod (has to be flat black with red wheels and wide whites) and i'm still undecided on BB or the flattner route but this discussion is helping me make up my mind.
Being in Calif I'm not too worried about rain, snow, salt, etc and UV ray fade just makes a rat rod look better. After all, real rods don't shine and primer is finer. Oh yeah, and don't forget to avoid the Boyd.



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Old 05-30-2004, 03:19 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by pronash I think the stripping problem is pilot error and is not the norm.

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I saw this before about the stripping and meant to say something
but was just plane laughing to hard to really care listening to the wannabe chemist promote this stuff.
The stripping issue is caused by the flattener wanting to separate
from the paint resin.

With this type of paint ( this is bottom of the barrel stuff)
almost any reducer can be used you can cut it with lacquer thinner, gasoline (but don't) acrylic enamel reducer, urethane reducer or Xylene and any color will spray good.

The exception is, is when flattening agent is added to this type paint resin.

Yes by adjusting spraying techniques you could over come the stripping issue but the way to "over come is use the JD reducer for thinning"
It makes no difference on any other type of paint system but this one, another option is go to Sherwin Williams and use there
"enamel reducer" NOT!- acrylic -just "enamel".

Please! Because I said the above don't think I have ever used this as I have not and can't think of anything I would want to destroy by using it.

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Old 05-30-2004, 06:09 AM
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Man, if my body panels fit as bad as the ones below, I think BB would have been the perfect choice...



let us Blitz black users do what we know how to do best...build cars. A little less time on the 8 layers of hand rubbed whatever and a little more time on panel alignment. Nuff said.

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Old 05-30-2004, 06:17 AM
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Your right, should have replaced that redone rocker or spray it flat black and not worry about it showing. 20 years from now maybe yours will be worth what I was paid for that car, car was ment to be a 1/4 mile car thats why not replaced and a weekend screw around. Oh I paid $300 for that car and probally sold it for more than you make in a year or two.
Anything else?
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:24 AM
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Well, now you're just in denial Barry. In case it matters I'm an engineer at the Intel plant here so unless you make close to 6 figures, you keep buying those $300 cars.
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Old 05-30-2004, 06:28 AM
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Thans,
Well buy all I can get!
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flat black

Like the chevy.........

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More trailer trash blitz bling. Notice the sheen, which primer won't have. The delivery is a good job, just showing the reflections.




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i dont see the fuss about using JD paint, lets not forget it is tractor paint, for agricultural vehicles not show cars.

Tractor paint is known for being low luster ang generally only fit for use on a tractor,

why not just pick a good matt black from a ppg, 2 pack range.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:09 AM
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well...i sprayed my bay with the rattle cans a while back so i can put my motor in...it has a nice shine to it...shine enough that is.

still gonna do it.

rat look rabbit
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Old 06-03-2004, 05:07 PM
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well...i sprayed my bay with the rattle cans a while back so i can put my motor in...it has a nice shine to it...shine enough that is.

still gonna do it.

rat look rabbit

I started on the doors last night. Should finish them up tonight.
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Old 06-03-2004, 10:23 PM
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Post some pics after you're done!

Mike
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See some familiar names in here

Good luck with the project man, as soon as I'm done with the move I'm gonna do it.
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