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Old 01-12-2004, 02:36 AM
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Can anyone tell us about John Deere's Blitz Black paint?
like:
- A specific primer needed?
- Or no primer needed?
- 1 coat or 2+?
- A reducer needed?
- How good of a paint is it?
- Please any and all personal and professional input will be appreciated. I and we have a couple of choppers and rods to do in a flat paint.

Thx- Jade & the Las Vegas Pirates "the O.G.'s"

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I would like any and all info as well. I am painting my car this color in the spring. I would like to avoid any surprises.
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Well I heard from John Deere and they said use a "JD primer with a JD paint". Sounds good to me. I wouldnt know how the JD paint would react with other surfaces painted or not. So this is what Im doing. Good luck on yours.....
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If they paint tractors with it I guess it couldn't be too hard...
Did you get a price on JD primer?
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http://dealerlocator.deere.com/servl...e=&postalCode=

Cut Copy & Paste the link above for a Dealer Locator

Blitz Black TY6416 $23.00 +or-$
Primer TY6457 $24
Reducer PT158 $14
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does it apply like any other paint, or is it a different kind of paint all together? would a clearcoat adhere to it allright?

And what kind of black is it?? any tints to it or is it basically jet black
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Old 01-14-2004, 02:18 AM
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It sprayes like any other paint with the proper ratio of reducer and such. Use a JD primer to shoot over existing paint or bare metal. They sell JD BB and primer in spray can size so you can experiment with varied primered or bare metal surfaces.
A clear Coat cant be used for the Blitz Black unless a flattening agent is mixed in. And it defeats the purpose if a clear is applied. The JD BB is widely used for the satin/suede/flat look as seen on old school Rat Rods & Rods alike. And its $$.$$ instead of $$$$.$$. Take a look at Jesse James ride the 54 Chevy ****initupagain as seen on the new Auto Zone TV add, and on the WCC site under "Whips" http://www.westcoastchoppers.com/. I called House of Kolor and talked to "the man", they use a HOK black (or any PPG black) with a HOK (or any) flattening agent. to get the flat look for the 54 and his other rides. The purpose for the JD BB is so the car will have the unfinished "look" of a flat black primer yet have a skin on it that you can beat the piss out of and it will stand up. And for pennies to repair compared to others. It is also has a good UV blocker and will hold up to any weather. Where a bare black primer will soak up water and oils. There is another option that is probabally the best flat black coating Ive found. And its pricey. By Color-Rite. http://www.color-rite.com/ Its called Asphalt (#MQ2818) and the Egg Shell (#P-FKT600) clear coat kit for it. It is the best looking true flat black Ive seen. And its strong. Honda put this color on its 03' 919 Motorcycle if you want to look at the color and finish.
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The UV blocker will also keep the paint from turning grey or chalky.
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i really like the look of the john deer bb on the old hotrods.....what do u guys think it would look like on a 80s G-body like a monte carlo, grandprix, cutalass type car?
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You cant go wrong with black.
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it will be for my 74 Gran Torino.

if you used a clear overtop would it not be a gloss black in the end?? I want a gloss black car, and i need to paint the car now since i've done some bodywork, but the jd paint and it's $$ looks real good to me.
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IS this paint enamel?
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does anyone got pics of cars with JD paint other then the old hotrods?
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How hard would it be to shoot for a first time shooter with high quality equipment (a bud of mine has all the trick equipment).

I'm guessing it wouldn't show waves the same as a gloss job. Also what kind of breathing aparatus would you need?
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John Deere Blitz Black

Blitz Black will shoot with pro equipment no problem with the right amount of reducers added.


A clear over the Blitz Black will make it glossy, but the BB was not formulated ultimatly not to have a clear. They make BB in spray can size, and a clear in spray can size at your local auto store. Test it out.


Blitz Black is Enamel


Pics of Blitz Black type paint jobs can be seen on West Coast Choppers web site under Whips. The 54 and Shop Truck are painted with a PPG black with a flattener but for the flat/color comparison you cant really tell between BB & a good PPG that has been flattened to the BB sheen.

Dubz

read my last post....

And dont F around with your lungs. Shell out a few more bucks and get a mask with replaceable air cartriges. The disposable .15 cent dust masks you see in the hardware store are for "dust" not chemicles.

And dont worry about shooting multiple thin coats of paint for your first time shoot. Patience times 100 when it comes to your ride. Go slow.....

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