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Old 09-23-2007, 02:51 PM
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John Force

Just heard a little about John Force and Kenny Berstien collided at end of track
Force supposedly has two broken legs,,,trying to find out more

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Old 09-23-2007, 03:16 PM
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:26 PM
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That sucks. They're both good guys who have my unwavering respect both as racers and people. I hope it's no worse than that. John especially has obviously had a tough year on many levels, including things much more important than racing, as most of you well know. I love both of them to death but have to kind of wish at this point that they'd both wind down their driving careers completely. They can both of course still stay involved, like Prudhomme and others, speaking of those whom as drivers and people who will always be worthy heroes.....
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That sucks. They're both good guys who have my unwavering respect both as racers and people. I hope it's no worse than that. John especially has obviously had a tough year on many levels, including things much more important than racing, as most of you well know. I love both of them to death but have to kind of wish at this point that they'd both wind down their driving careers completely. They can both of course still stay involved, like Prudhomme and others, speaking of those whom as drivers and people who will always be worthy heroes.....
I'm glad they made it and I agree with you. There comes a time when even the great ones have to take a more passive role.
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I agree that there comes a time to hang up the helmet, gloves, cleats, etc. That is coming from a person who thrives on challenge and risk.

When I was heavy into drag racing motorcycles, there was a guy named Elmer Trett; then the fastest man on two wheels. He was 53, and held the word record at 6.06/235mph. He wasn't satisfied and was trying to become the first in the 5's; and to get the NHRA to accept Top Fuel Motorcycles. He died on the track in pursuit of that goal...
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It's a miracle he's alive. Video:

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Old 09-23-2007, 05:19 PM
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First time I've actually watched it. Thank God for modern safety technology and just plain thank God.
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I love both of them to death but have to kind of wish at this point that they'd both wind down their driving careers completely. They can both of course still stay involved, like Prudhomme and others, speaking of those whom as drivers and people who will always be worthy heroes.....
Let's face it, some people can retire contently - others can't. Jenkins, Glidden, and Prudhomme are in the first group. WJ and KB are apparently in the second group. While John Force has been making retirement noise a lot this year, his personality would have to change for him to do it. Even if he did "retire", he would probably be back just like KB. Just my not so humble opinion. As far as it being "time" to retire, I have two words - Chris Karamesines.
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Old 09-23-2007, 05:52 PM
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that was one nasty crash , the car broke in two. he won't be happy that ashley didn't drive the next round.......
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Let's face it, some people can retire contently - others can't. Jenkins, Glidden, and Prudhomme are in the first group. WJ and KB are apparently in the second group. While John Force has been making retirement noise a lot this year, his personality would have to change for him to do it. Even if he did "retire", he would probably be back just like KB. Just my not so humble opinion. As far as it being "time" to retire, I have two words - Chris Karamesines.
I know what you're saying. And I fear that when it comes to that, he may have too much in common with the likes of Earnhardt, Kinser, Bonnet and many others we could think of. They can't quit and won't until absolutely slapped in the face by reality. This reality can take many forms and some are not good. Not good at all.
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Why are they using barrels to mark the center lane? You can clearly see that right at the end of the track Kenny Berstien kicked a barrel into John Force's car, which caused Force's rear end to blow out. Nothing would have happened if it was open like a normal track.
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Why are they using barrels to mark the center lane? You can clearly see that right at the end of the track Kenny Berstien kicked a barrel into John Force's car, which caused Force's rear end to blow out. Nothing would have happened if it was open like a normal track.
I think the blocks are styrofoam or similar material. They are there to protect the timing equipment. They don't have a lot of impact energy because of there low density. Chances are it was the timing light or sensor under the block that Kenny's car kicked over into one or both of the rear tires on Force's car.
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I think the blocks are styrofoam or similar material. They are there to protect the timing equipment. They don't have a lot of impact energy because of there low density. Chances are it was the timing light or sensor under the block that Kenny's car kicked over into one or both of the rear tires on Force's car.

Ok that makes some sense. It's just that all the tracks that I have been to don't have anything in the middle like that. Is it a special setup that forgos the house's timing for when the pro series is at a track? I know that the outlaw sprint car series is that way, but their equipment is buried under the track.
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:21 PM
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IMO, that car should not have broken like it did. The tires shredded and the block hit the back, what was holding the 2 halves together, bubblegum? He's lucky he didn't lose his legs the way the car broke. Something looks to be terribly wrong about the whole situation. Dan
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Old 09-24-2007, 05:04 PM
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I couldn't believe it, glad he'll be ok. The track was real sticky and they were running good numbers. Ashley set the track record for the weekend (unless someone else busted it) During one of the interviews, a top fuel driver noticed huge chunks missing from a competitor's back tire. Maybe John put down too much for the tires to handle? Looking at the instant replays last night, it didn't look like the anything hit John's car, it was self inflicted from something failing. The timing was sure coincidnetal though.
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