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JUNK HF motor

I just saw a replacement compressor motor while at HF today and in case anyone may be needing a compressor motor this one is DEFINITELY not the one! This POS is rated at 6 HP and is advertised as an upgrade for a 5 HP motor but that is not the case. At the rated running AMPS@230 volts it actually puts out about 4.9 HP with a service factor of 1, that coupled with the fact it is so cheaply built means that if someone replaces a true 5HP motor with this thing they will probably have $199.99 worth of burned out junk in short order. It's a piece of junk!

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I like it!
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Most stuff from China is crap. I do buy a little bit of it sometimes even though I shouldn't. When I buy Chinese it's usually when the American stuff is so expensive that I can't justify it or you just can't find American stuff. The US will someday regret that the trade gap is so huge with China. It will eventuallly ruin our economy and will hurt the younger people the most.

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Most of the HF electric (anything) is junk.

I do buy some tools there, but it is usually when I need something cheap for a 1 time use. If I am going to actually use a tool over and over...I will buy good ones. Or as good of ones as I can afford at the time anyway.
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I usually buy consumables from HF, paint brushes, razor blades, sand paper and such. I never buy any tools from them.

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Most of the HF electric (anything) is junk.

I do buy some tools there, but it is usually when I need something cheap for a 1 time use. If I am going to actually use a tool over and over...I will buy good ones. Or as good of ones as I can afford at the time anyway.
LMAO, I was at HF a few weeks ago, and the guy in front of me was buying a few Chinese power tools and said to his buddy- "Yeah, I'm gonna get the extended warranty, cause I don't know why, but when I buy something, I want it to last forever..."

I wanted to tell him- "If that's the case, you're shopping at the wrong store.."

I also buy Chinese crap somewhat often, but only small consumables, like zip-ties, cotter pins, washers, and really, nothing else...
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I think most people who buy from HF don't expect long service and if that motor had been advertised as a 4 HP I probably would have not given it a second thought. The fact it was being sold as something it clearly is not and was being touted as an UPGRADE when actually it is a downgrade that would fail quickly simply from being overloaded when used for what it is rated for is what I thought stinks. I buy some things from HF and if they don't work of fail too soon I just laugh it off because I know what I am getting when I go in there. I have a few HF tools that have done really well, a 4 1/2" angle grinder that held up really good, a horizontal bandsaw that works good and is holding up well, the 43430 "purple gun" HVLP paint gun that works REALLY good and a bunch of other items. There have been however almost as many duds, a body saw that is JUNK (got tired of exchanging them), a long board sander that is total junk and just as bad as the saw and some of the jacks they sell are a joke. I bought an eight ton bottle jack that will not lift 2 tons before starting to bypass and I soon found out they are all the same so I quit exchanging them and just accept it as a large two ton , the list could go on but if someone gets burned there it's their own fault and as I said I just laugh it off to me it's just a game.
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I think most people who buy from HF don't expect long service and if that motor had been advertised as a 4 HP I probably would have not given it a second thought. The fact it was being sold as something it clearly is not and was being touted as an UPGRADE when actually it is a downgrade that would fail quickly simply from being overloaded when used for what it is rated for is what I thought stinks. I buy some things from HF and if they don't work of fail too soon I just laugh it off because I know what I am getting when I go in there. I have a few HF tools that have done really well, a 4 1/2" angle grinder that held up really good, a horizontal bandsaw that works good and is holding up well, the 43430 "purple gun" HVLP paint gun that works REALLY good and a bunch of other items. There have been however almost as many duds, a body saw that is JUNK (got tired of exchanging them), a long board sander that is total junk and just as bad as the saw and some of the jacks they sell are a joke. I bought an eight ton bottle jack that will not lift 2 tons before starting to bypass and I soon found out they are all the same so I quit exchanging them and just accept it as a large two ton , the list could go on but if someone gets burned there it's their own fault and as I said I just laugh it off to me it's just a game.
I just don't even bother leaving it to chance.. I make my money with my tools, so I'll put my money on a "sure bet", won't leave it to chance buying cheapo tools....
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Big, I could not agree with you more, When I ran my shop I would not have allowed HF junk in there for the very reason you mention-I was making my living with my tools and by far most of them were Snapon. I also owned some Blackhawk, S&K, etc but no Chinese junk nor did any of my employees, both the shop and service trucks were outfitted with "real" tools. Since I retired (and let almost all my tools go with the shop) I only work for a hobby and the HF tools seem to work just fine for that, a lot of them anyway, and as I said now it is just a game for me but if I went back to work it would still be Snapon and to heck with the cost it would be worth it, I know from experience!
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Big, I could not agree with you more, When I ran my shop I would not have allowed HF junk in there for the very reason you mention-I was making my living with my tools and by far most of them were Snapon. I also owned some Blackhawk, S&K, etc but no Chinese junk nor did any of my employees, both the shop and service trucks were outfitted with "real" tools. Since I retired (and let almost all my tools go with the shop) I only work for a hobby and the HF tools seem to work just fine for that, a lot of them anyway, and as I said now it is just a game for me but if I went back to work it would still be Snapon and to heck with the cost it would be worth it, I know from experience!


Can't argue with you there.... If the "Job" isn't bringing in the cash enough to always buy top of the line, you really have no choice.. I've worked for myself for the past few years, but I'm trying to get back into a more steady paying job.. As long as I've been working on my own, I've put little money into my projects, trying to buy "close-to-the best" for my cars. Friends, customers look at my cars and wonder why I don't have more done.. I usually point to my tools.. After graduating tech school, I spent most of the cash I had on some tools that I believed would make "work" a little easier. Afriend of mine said to me "Wow, you spent $500+ at Sears, you must've gotten a whole bunch of tools..."

All I could think was- "You must not buy tools often...".. So, I understand the cost of a good tool....
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Most stuff from China is crap. I do buy a little bit of it sometimes even though I shouldn't. When I buy Chinese it's usually when the American stuff is so expensive that I can't justify it or you just can't find American stuff. The US will someday regret that the trade gap is so huge with China. It will eventuallly ruin our economy and will hurt the younger people the most.

Danny
...so that's why I can't get a decent job in an industry of some sort beyond retail and resturant. I sure miss working at a car dealership.

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I try to buy American whenever possible, even consumables- I figure that I'm helping, in some way, to keep jobs here. Sad thing is, it's often dang near impossible to find an American made tv, computer, etc.

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As for tools, being a hobbyist/tinkerer, I buy craftsman since they're not as expensive as Snap-On, SK, and other professional grade tools, but still better made than the foregin stuff. As for pneumatic tools, I'll find an old American Made IR that costs more than a craftsman (the low end air tools, and a lot of electronic tools at least are from China).

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not only tools are crap from China.... my new socks rip the first time putting them on!!! From now on I'm buying good'ol USA made Wigwam brand socks !!!
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Maybe it's your feet.

Seriously... Any tool I know I'll use a lot or anything that requires precision (torque wrench, etc) I spend money on...

I will say I bought a set of drill bits from ... man I can't remember the name, but they show up with a trailer full and setup shop... none of the bits were straight... but the parts washer and cheap drill press I bought work well enough.
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it was probably cummins industrial tool sales. I think the stuff they sell there was rejected by harbor freight LOL
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