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Old 01-28-2011, 02:06 PM
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Is a remote starter soleniod from Ford and GM the same thing as a starter relay from Mopar? Or do they do different things?

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Is a remote starter soleniod from Ford and GM the same thing as a starter relay from Mopar? Or do they do different things?
GM doesn't use a remote starter solenoid. It's built into the starter.
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Speaking of the starter solenoid for Ford and Mopar they provide a high current electrical connection to the starter which can draw several hundred amps from the battery. The GM starter solenoid provides the electrical connection plus it mechanically engages the starter pinion gear to the flywheel ring gear.
I'm not sure the newer cars are set up like this but I'm sure someone the works on the newer cars will chime in.

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the chrysler uses a starter relay that powes up the small terminal on those old gear reductions starters on chrysler. The starter has a large wire that handles the current and a small one that energizes the starter . It gets its crank signal form the fender mounted starter relay which incorporated with the neutral/backup light switch provides safety lockout for park/nuetral.
Not to sure how the amc is set up.Chrysler trans... ford starter... !
Does it have a ford lookin solenoid under the hood anywhere?
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Is a remote starter soleniod from Ford and GM the same thing as a starter relay from Mopar? Or do they do different things?
The ford solenoid does what the gm solenoid does, but it is seperate from the starter and it does not play a part of the engagement of drive gears as the GM does.It is a high current handling switch.
The chrysler has a starter relay, it is a low current device ( as compared to the other 2) the chrysler has solenoid winding inside of it to handle the hi current and gear engagement like the GM
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Well the original starter relay is a Ford style. I just checked it at Checkers online and it comes up as part #'s S63 or S63P. I know one of the diagrams I have shows the battery wire going to one of the large posts on the starter solenoid and the other large post goes to the large post on the starter itself. Now the only thing is the neutral saftey switch, trying to figure it out. The center wire goes to the starter solenoid, but which one the "S" side or "I" side? Does it need a constant 12v or just momentary like the starter?
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I would have to say it goes to the S for start. I would be for ignition. Seeing how the starter is a ford type the positive lead from the batt goes on one side and the power lead for the starter goes on the other big post.
Not too sure how amc configured the neutral switch wiring,but if the center wire on the nuetral switch goes to the solenoid then the other one has to go to the ignition switch start connector.
If the solenoid isnt labeled S or I then ground the solenoid (mount it to its spot) and then jump a wire from the battery positive to one or the other terminals (small one)the one that makes it click will be the S terminal
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I am still looking for the answer, at least one that makes sense. I see you were at the amc forum allready and it looks like that was a workable arrangement .Still trying to make sense of amc configuration for the nss.
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I am thinking that the solenoid amc uses is an Isolated ground. Meaning that both of the small terminals are for the solenoid coil.I am not sure but I am thinking this may be how they do it.Still looking
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I saw a couple diagrams that showed a nuetral switch on the steering column and the wire coming from it to the solenoid was green. It went to the S terminal. The I terminal went to the yellow and a pink wire.still havent found a diagram specific to your car.Yours is a 69? right?
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Yup, it's a 69' The only thing is I now have a ididit steering column, th eignition switch is now on the dash. Also, it's now a floor shift, with a Cheetah shifter. If that helps?
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look here
http://www.amccars.net/cgi/yaBB.pl?num=1199958757
I hope this link works. It is a color photo of a diagram for a 70
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hmm would'nt let me see it at work, guess I gotta wait till I get home and try there.
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well that could be the problem. AMC does not show a diagram ( at least that I could find ) that uses the chrysler NSS on the trans. They ALL showed using a column mounted NSS and a solenoid that mounts on the body with an S and an I terminal, not the ground isolated one I mentioned earlier. Should be a pretty straight forward wire up. Just dont use the trans mounted NSS if you want to make it easy.
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