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Old 05-02-2013, 06:28 AM
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Vinnie if I was going to be around at any point in the next year I would do that, by I just started another 1 year deployment to the middle east. For anyone who cares to know, I found out what happened. The gear shift indicator is off on that pickup and falls somewhere between the N and D while in drive and is pretty well lined up on the D when in second. apparently the fact that it never grabbed 3rd gear never caught his attention. And he ran it at 60 mph in 2nd gear for about 10 miles. That pickup has 4.11 gears and is full time awd. So end of the story is that it wasn't blatant abuse, it was ignorance. He didn't really know much about older vehicles and common quirks we are probably all well versed in. If I had been there I probably could have shown him a thing or two and avoided this situation all together. I feel bad for him, but I can't really do anything for him unless I want to pay for it. I've made plenty of ignorant mistakes before, and sometimes they get expensive. Live and learn.
and I'm guess'n you were not the one that showed him the truck..
cause if you did.. your failure to show him that.. kinds puts you on the hook.. and what 78 chevy is awd?

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kinds puts you on the hook..
Am I the only one who realizes when you buy a used viehicle from a non-dealer you're taking a gamble?

Puts him on the hook for what?

This entire thread is FUBAR, a guy sold a truck, the new owner broke it, not the original owner's problem. I've bought quite a few cars this way and the thought of me even considering notifying the previous owner of anything is laughable.

Some of you guys act like you never bought a car before.
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Am I the only one who realizes when you buy a used viehicle from a non-dealer you're taking a gamble?

Puts him on the hook for what?

This entire thread is FUBAR, a guy sold a truck, the new owner broke it, not the original owner's problem. I've bought quite a few cars this way and the thought of me even considering notifying the previous owner of anything is laughable.

Some of you guys act like you never bought a car before.
EXACTLY!
All my years of selling cars in about every state there is, never have known of a state, where I was forced to give a warranty.
Someone asked what state he was in that required this and no answer and there will be no answer as it is too easy to find the law.

Just bullchit to see yourself in print, I do believe.
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EXACTLY!
All my years of selling cars in about every state there is, never have known of a state, where I was forced to give a warranty.
Someone asked what state he was in that required this and no answer and there will be no answer as it is too easy to find the law.

Just bullchit to see yourself in print, I do believe.
I live in ma
any vehicle sold over iirc 1500.oo can't be sold as is..
in other words writing that on a bill of sale means zero
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Am I the only one who realizes when you buy a used viehicle from a non-dealer you're taking a gamble?

Puts him on the hook for what?

This entire thread is FUBAR, a guy sold a truck, the new owner broke it, not the original owner's problem. I've bought quite a few cars this way and the thought of me even considering notifying the previous owner of anything is laughable.

Some of you guys act like you never bought a car before.
sold a truck with a faulty shifter that he KNEW about.. that caused the failure.. I know when I put my truck in "d" I'd think it's in "d" not low 2
I'm sure the new owner should've just known this trucks shifter was off.. and what rpm it should run at ,at 60,mph.. if there even is a tach.. to show the rpm's
cause all you guys knew it all at 19 right??
seller knew of issue, and didn't disclose it.. causing new owner (not knowing about it) to put the shifter in "d" like anyother automatic and drive off..
ya.. sorry.. because the seller knew about the problem.. ya he's wrong.
I'm sure the seller ment no harm but the fact is he knew the issue and he knows what could happen if left in 2nd gear and driven down the hyway, unlike the new driver that had no clue..
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I live in ma
any vehicle sold over iirc 1500.oo can't be sold as is..
in other words writing that on a bill of sale means zero
READ THE LAW!!!
Consumer Guide to Private Party Car Sales


No different then any other state, except they vary to the amount of cars sold a year before you need a dealers lic.

This is safety related only, like every other state, trans blows, engine blows, its not a safety issue.
Also car must pass emissions tests as in every other state.
Law is NOTHING like you stated for cars over $1500.

YEP, just a good common sense law like every other state has, you don't sell a car if you know the ball joint is ready to fall out.
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I live in ma
any vehicle sold over iirc 1500.oo can't be sold as is..
in other words writing that on a bill of sale means zero
One of the sites I am working on right now is in MA, and I wouldn't blink if you told me that have a completely ridiculous law as I see a lot of them from MA, NJ, NY, MD... basically the northeast. I really feel bad for any poor SOB who has the misfortune of living there.

For a vacation though many of those places are pretty nice.
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READ THE LAW!!!
Consumer Guide to Private Party Car Sales


No different then any other state, except they vary to the amount of cars sold a year before you need a dealers lic.

This is safety related only, like every other state, trans blows, engine blows, its not a safety issue.
Also car must pass emissions tests as in every other state.
Law is NOTHING like you stated for cars over $1500.

YEP, just a good common sense law like every other state has, you don't sell a car if you know the ball joint is ready to fall out.
and if you get taken to court because the engine failed mear hours after the sale, and you tell the judge you knew about the shift issue and did not tell the new buyer.. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT IN COURT
I can tell you first hand that in this state writing sold as is.. is worthless on a bill of sale.. even with the issues written on the b.o.s. court don't care..
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and if you get taken to court because the engine failed mear hours after the sale, and you tell the judge you knew about the shift issue and did not tell the new buyer.. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT IN COURT
I can tell you first hand that in this state writing sold as is.. is worthless on a bill of sale.. even with the issues written on the b.o.s. court don't care..
You make this up as you go along??? Dream on!

First find a lawyer dumb enough to take a case with no written law, they won't touch it, as he could be liable for the defendants lawyers cost.
I don't care if the engine blew up after he gave the guy the money and was still in the driveway, it is not a safety item and no case.
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ok..


guess you never heard of small claims..

I have no dog in this fight..
but It suck all around
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The seller is Innocent till proven guilty. The burden of proof would lay on the accuser to make a case.

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Why not have a third party inspect the engine and see if there is an obvious cause for the failure.
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Why not have a third party inspect the engine and see if there is an obvious cause for the failure.
Why bother?
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:41 AM
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kid got a truck with an issue.. and clearly thats just dandy..
good luck over in the sand pit..
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The gear shift indicator is off on that pickup and falls somewhere between the N and D while in drive and is pretty well lined up on the D when in second. apparently the fact that it never grabbed 3rd gear never caught his attention. And he ran it at 60 mph in 2nd gear for about 10 miles.
The fact that it never grabbed 3rd gear SHOULD have caught his attention. I've driven many cars where the shifter indications are a little 'off'.
If the RPM at 60 mph in 2nd gear was high enough to put a rod through the pan, he should have seen it coming, surely!!.....what is he freakin brain dead?

Sorry, personal responsibility .



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