I was wondering what type of process does it take to put a ladder bar or 4 link suspension under my 77 camaro,do you still have to run leaf springs.I have never done a ladder bar or 4 link,Is there any good books to go by.any info would help.I would like to tuck a big set of tires under the car,and I know this is the best way to do it,Thanks for looking

I guess you CAN physically put a 4 link or ladder bars in with leaf springs suspending the rear, it would require a floater kit, but MOST 4 links or ladder bar rears are suspended by coil over shocks.

Try google searching the big name suspension guys, Art Morrison, Chris Alston etc etc and look at the "FAQ" links on their home pages..?
Alot of suspension builders sell back half kits, the frame rails, suspension, etc, either pre-made or in kit form.

Thanks I probably want run leafs.I just want to get in to racing rear suspension on race cars,and with a little help and getting out there and doing I know I can get it all figured out.

Lots of guys have success with Caltracs and leafs.......

http://www.calvertracing.com/info/info.htm

You should just run a mini tub, move the springs in a bit and move the tubs in a bit. That will give you the room for a bit bigger tire.. If you intend on racing it, i wouldn't run the leaf with bars or a link set up..
Your throwing away good money and adding weight to the car.
If you going into the 8 or 9 sec in the quarter, then you can go with a back half set up.. Even then you might not need to do that. We run an aftermarket mono leaf and just moved the tubs in just a bit to clear the tires, still looks stock, and we use Cal-Tracs with Rancho adjustable shocks.. The car leaves hard and goes straight.. It's my daughters 69 T/A with a sbc 406.. It goes 10:40's (on motor) and that's with a mild motor. The next motor that i will build for it, will go way into the 9's and we'll use the same suspension, with no problems..

Hope this helps and saves you some time and cash..

Good luck..

how do you move the springs inboard.I know you can get a kit for a 67 camaro and some novas but I haven't seen a kit for a 77 camaro.Do they make a universal kit?

The front spring pocket is usually at the rear end of the subframe connector, and the back it a spring re-locator kit.. Jegs and Summit should have them for that year car,, Also you can check out S&W or Comp enginnering.. There are some others also.. If you can't find it for your year you might have to get a frame rail kit to tie the springs in..

After you relocate your springs then you can section out the stock wheel tub and weld a few inch strip in it to keep the stock apperance.. And the back seat can also stay in the car with no mods.

I couldn't find it in the catalogs either..

I would call S&W direct and ask them about a kit for your car..

Here's the # 1-800-523-3353

Or you can Google it @ S&W Race Cars

Thanks for all the info I am going to start hunting down parts asap