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Old 08-05-2005, 08:34 PM
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Ladder Bars

I have a set of bolt on ladder bars on the back of my Model A coupe with a 283 SBC and 4 speed.

I know there is no way the bolt on ladder bars will stop the rear end from spinning under good traction.

My question is can I heat up the ladder bars and rear end than use my 110 volt mig welder to weld the ladder bars? Will heating up the bars and rearend put enough heat in the metal so the mig welder will penetrate? Failing this can I drag out the old tanks and weld them(braise) on?
Thanks - Jerry

P.S. I know that I have to watch and not get the rearend to hot and warp the tubes.

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mm..you dont spin the tires with good traction..
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moving to the suspension section. There should be more answers
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I found that using the flux core wire allowed me to get a better heat out of my little 110 volt wire feeder which allowed me to get some good welds on my housing..You can also try using a rosebud torch to heat the weld area in order to get better penetration..

I think it is a good idea to drain the oil out of that housing before welding on it..I removed the axles and third member to do that to mine..

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I highly recommend you do this right. There is a bunch of torque placed on these bars and a weak weld can let go at the most unfortunate times. On hot cars, they even weld two brackets to sandwich the T-bar ends on the rear axle 'cause just one isn't strong enough to avoid tearing out a good weld. I have learned from experience there is no way to cheap out on this. Weld the brackets with a good fillet weld using a 220amp buzz box and 1/8", 7018 rod. Then take the tube to a machine shop and have it straightened from the inevitable heat warpage. Anything else is pretty risky. A broken weld or fried wheel bearing will ruin a Sunday picnic @ the park every time.
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