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Old 01-22-2008, 10:47 AM
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I sure like them on a lambourghini. Wish all cars had them, Imagine a world without door dings! They sure look like a huge time/effort to retrofit though. I would imagine they work great for a year or two, then the pins start wearing and door sag sets in ....... Why bother, so many better ways to spend your time.

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Thanks ckucia, that makes my mind up...

That type of modification is not a worthwhile one for me to do.

Challenge or not,

It will not enhance the operation of the door at all, and it sacrifices functionality for appearance and is strictly done for an illusion of grandeur.

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This is why I really don't "get" doing suicide doors. It adds nothing but a "wow" factor (notice it is a small "wow", not a "WOW") and it is only seen when the car is at it's least attractive time....when the doors are open. I feel the time is way better spent on mods that inhance the looks of the car as it sits there or is driven by.

As mentioned the door on the lambo comes down into a "hole" designed for it. The window for instance is at a steep angle, sort of "laying" down on the roof more than fitting into the side of the car like on the Porsche.

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I just called the guy back, and told him I don't want to do it..

In talking to some local guys, besides hearing the same things Brian and ckucia said, I found a guy at a body shop up the street who likes installing those things...

I hooked them up.
It's a match made in heaven, I'm sure.


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Old 01-22-2008, 11:48 AM
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I found a guy at a body shop up the street who likes installing those things...I hooked them up.
Smart move Mikey. Customer gets the doors he wants. Body shop guy loves you for the referral. And you don't have to be worried about that thing coming back in the shop every 6 months. Everybody wins. Plus I doubt you would have made a whole ton of money on that job. You'd want it to be right and that would require a gob of your time...for which you probably couldn't charge full rate.
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we had a Tahoe come in with those awful things in stalled on it and it was supposed to be a kit for this thing too. The doors didn't fit right and were hard to close. Also in a good wind I bet the doors could slap the roof of the thing. I never done any and I have turned down a few people to do them. Seeing them up close ...what a waste. Maybe good for show but not for every day use. Tim
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This is why I really don't "get" doing suicide doors. It adds nothing but a "wow" factor (notice it is a small "wow", not a "WOW") and it is only seen when the car is at it's least attractive time....when the doors are open. I feel the time is way better spent on mods that inhance the looks of the car as it sits there or is driven by.
If you trace the suicide doors back, it was done as a "fix" for "a mod that WAS done for the looks of the car". The auto stylists of that time were trying to go with the swept back body lines to mimic speed & motion. They angled the cowl to hood parting line and then angled the nearby front door edge. Then there was no way to mount hinges on the severe angle...and the suicide door was born.

I believe it was 1932, with the Plymouth PB. Ford had the doors on the 3 window only, but with a vertical hood line. Ford in 33 did what Plymouth did in 32...a slanted rear hood line too.

I owned a 32 PB cabriolet and I did not care for the suicide doors. Making a front angled door requires it to be much longer & heavier. It just felt heavy & clumsy.
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If you trace the suicide doors back, it was done as a "fix" for "a mod that WAS done for the looks of the car". The auto stylists of that time were trying to go with the swept back body lines to mimic speed & motion. They angled the cowl to hood parting line and then angled the nearby front door edge. Then there was no way to mount hinges on the severe angle...and the suicide door was born.

I believe it was 1932, with the Plymouth PB. Ford had the doors on the 3 window only, but with a vertical hood line. Ford in 33 did what Plymouth did in 32...a slanted rear hood line too.

I owned a 32 PB cabriolet and I did not care for the suicide doors. Making a front angled door requires it to be much longer & heavier. It just felt heavy & clumsy.

That is some interesting stuff there

A while back, when I worked at Poli Form, a guy in some foreign country, (France I think), wanted us to build him a 34 Ford coupe body with doors that opened at the front instead of back. IIRC it was because of the DOT laws in his country...

We said no.
(I did look at it and pondered making a single giant hinge mounted at the front lower corner.so the door would swing level,.and then said no again.)


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If you trace the suicide doors back, it was done as a "fix" for "a mod that WAS done for the looks of the car". The auto stylists of that time were trying to go with the swept back body lines to mimic speed & motion. They angled the cowl to hood parting line and then angled the nearby front door edge. Then there was no way to mount hinges on the severe angle...and the suicide door was born.

I believe it was 1932, with the Plymouth PB. Ford had the doors on the 3 window only, but with a vertical hood line. Ford in 33 did what Plymouth did in 32...a slanted rear hood line too.

I owned a 32 PB cabriolet and I did not care for the suicide doors. Making a front angled door requires it to be much longer & heavier. It just felt heavy & clumsy.
That IS very interesting, thanks!

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Here is some more door hinging information..
A work colleague of mine had a Rover with rear suicide doors, while moving someone in the back opened the door...................

The car had been stored for many years and when he aquired it, it was mint.
Luckily his father, my sheet metal instructor, was able to repair the damage.
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Me again.....................
Butterfly doors are one thing, these are something else.
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All I can say Malc is refer to this thread post #29 (Click here)

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They´re kinda "niche" vehicles
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I think those doors are STTTTUUUUPPPPIIIIIDDD, however, as I watch that video with my mouth wide open like I am seeing a plane crash or something, the gears are turning in my head trying to figure out just how I would go about fabbing all the stuff needed to do it. It is interesting, and if it were at a show I would RUN to it to look at the craftsmenship and design. I LOVE that stuff. But come one, it's as stupid as the giant cuffed bell bottoms I wore in highschool.

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