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Old 02-07-2005, 06:49 AM
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landscaping/retaining walls??

And body work with or build retaining walls???

Please pm me i have some questions for ya...

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Old 02-07-2005, 03:46 PM
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Well this isn't really a hot rod topic but let's go and see what comes out of it.
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Old 02-07-2005, 04:09 PM
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Why PM? I might be able to answer.
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Post it. I have done a little landscaping. Just timbers and railroad ties though, no rock or brick work.
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Old 02-07-2005, 05:47 PM
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I used to work landscaping and installed such walls you are referring to. Just post it here.
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:19 PM
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ok....

It's kind of hard to explain but i'll try. Sunday after church i pulled into my driveway and found my brick retaining wall laying in front of my garage door.... it has been there since the house was built in 66 and needed re-pointing but i just never got the time to do it...
I live in a brick rancher and at the end where my drive is there are 2 banks one on each side of the drive way. The yard is graded this way so the basement is at ground level on one end of the house.... I hope you are following. I am thinking about replacing it with a retaining wall instead of the brick one. The problem is that i need to go 2 or maybe 3 courses higher then what they recommend.

I was wonder if they build any safety factor in the limit on the hight of this typ of wall. The bank it will retain is just the yard and nothing structural....

It's my understanding that the proper way is to back fill the wall with 3/4" stone and then a silt paper then the dirt. it was also recommended to me to put drain pipes in the bottom to aid with the water removal......

Thanks for any help, Keith
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Old 02-07-2005, 06:27 PM
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Are you using bricks like these? How many high?
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I have used solid steel rods to reinforce the outside of a wall. Painted trim color or you can go with a color that matches the wood better. You can also step the wall in terraces. May require more excavating, but might work better.
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If you are going higher than recommended you may only need to install a few dead men to tie the wall back to the dirt. This will prevent the wall from falling forward. Washed stone or coarse sand to backfill with weep holes at the bottom. I have spent 9 years building sea walls and retaining walls as high as 30 ft. and never had a failure.
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Yup some dead men will do the trick.
I have some in my yard that have been there for 20 some odd years.
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If you are talking about the stackable landscape block like NXS posted you can tie them back to the ground using reinforcing wire like they use in concrete. Dig out behind where you are laying the block by a couple of feet. Put a couple of courses of block up, lay down a layer of reinforcing wire, and add some block on top of it. You will want to back the wall up with a piece of corrugated drain tile, covered over with landscape cloth, covered over with gravel. Then add dirt. When you get a course from the top (ground level), repeat with the wire again. This should tie it firmly back into the ground, allow for proper drainage, and prevent anything from pushing the wall out. Chances are wqhen the wal was built in '66, it was built straight up and no proper footings. Any wall that is against a bank should be built slightly leaning into the bank. Same principle as when they build a dam.

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Kevin, I am going to use the style block that NXS posted. As far as i can see you are correct. It was a straigh up brick wall with no footer under it. I did not get it all torn down yet. With the PA weather i probably will not be able to do anything to it untill spring...

Not sure i have the total picture of the wire mesh. will it just lay on top of the block, with the next course laying on top of it??? and then lay on the dirt behind the wall with additional dirt on top of it??? How far back should i go with the mesh????

NXS, i am going to build the wall around 5 foot high. If i remember correct the paper that came with the block talked about a max height of around 48" I will need to doubel check that tho...

Mighty mouse and stu,,, Is the mesh deal the same thing as the dead men you are talking about????

Thanks guys,,,, Any body want to come over and help???? L.O.L. Keith
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Old 02-08-2005, 05:12 AM
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The mesh and dead man are close but no seegar.
I would prefer the dead man.
Are you buying lunch if I come over to help?
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I went through the same thing at my inlaws. Sunken driveway with garage under the end of the ranch.

What you experienced, was a footer failure, combined with improper drainage. Water freezes, and pushes the wall over.

Easiest way to get rid of that is to find someone with a backhoe!! Your back will appreciate it.

The landscape blocks will be your best bet. You should really investigate where the water will go once the new wall is up, or you'll end up with a similar problem down the road. If it weeps into the driveway, then you will need some sort of drain at the end of the driveway. The BEST way, it to have a footer drain behind the wall, tied into a proper drainfield. Otherwise, it will heave the blocks as the water freezes. Ice is powerful stuff.

If you go to a commercial landscape block supplier, they have a block that weighs 66 pounds each. I'm pretty sure you can get a 6' wall with them. Its the type that has the plastic pins. They work awesome, and look good too. They may be heavier to handle than the Home depot type, but you'll only do it once.


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