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Nowhere near that size

My new to me toy is not that big but ....hey...it is my first.
Pfaff 145 H4
I have wanted to learn how to do upholstery work for over 20 years and figured it was about damn time I did it.
So craigslist'ing I go and low and behold 60 miles away I find this one.
$450
Dozen bobbins, 50 needles, original manuals and an oem welting foot.
After a good cleaning and oiled it up...it is running like.............a sewing machine.

I know this one uses a small bobbin....."only down side I see".......but What size do they call this bobbin?.....manual doesn't say.


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Dan - What kind of money does a high quality large arm machine like that cost? My local industrial sewing machine guy has a rather amazing Singer very long arm walking foot machine that I've eye balled lately..
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If a dealer would have one for $2,000 to $2400 depending on the condition and model, it would be a reasonable price. New ones go for $3,500 to $4500. That would be for a 20" model. 30" models would be more.
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My new to me toy is not that big but ....hey...it is my first.
Pfaff 145 H4
I have wanted to learn how to do upholstery work for over 20 years and figured it was about damn time I did it.
So craigslist'ing I go and low and behold 60 miles away I find this one.
$450
Dozen bobbins, 50 needles, original manuals and an oem welting foot.
After a good cleaning and oiled it up...it is running like.............a sewing machine.

I know this one uses a small bobbin....."only down side I see".......but What size do they call this bobbin?.....manual doesn't say.

The smaller size bobbin is a "G" bobbin, which is just under 7/8" in diameter. The next larger size is an "M" bobbin which is 1" in diameter. My Consew 255 RB-3 uses a bobbin that is 1 1/8" in diameter, and the long arm Singer's bobbin is 1 1/2" in diameter. Naturally, you could use smaller size bobbins which would work fine, you'd just run out of bobbin thread sooner. "G" and "M" bobbins come pre-wound. The bobbin size is really only a factor if you're sewing large items like boat covers or truck tarps where changing bobbins all the time is a pain in the ... BTW, that Pfaff was a real steal and is an excellent sewing machine. That's what I learned to sew on.
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The smaller size bobbin is a "G" bobbin, which is just under 7/8" in diameter. The next larger size is an "M" bobbin which is 1" in diameter. My Consew 255 RB-3 uses a bobbin that is 1 1/8" in diameter, and the long arm Singer's bobbin is 1 1/2" in diameter. Naturally, you could use smaller size bobbins which would work fine, you'd just run out of bobbin thread sooner. "G" and "M" bobbins come pre-wound. The bobbin size is really only a factor if you're sewing large items like boat covers or truck tarps where changing bobbins all the time is a pain in the ... BTW, that Pfaff was a real steal and is an excellent sewing machine. That's what I learned to sew on.
Thanks so much for the info on the bobbins.
Your tutorials on this site are what finally got me to get off my ***** and do this upholstery thing.
Thanks again

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The manual shows the H4 is supposed to use 190 length needle but it has 134 needle in it now and is sewing great. I tried a 190 and it won't stitch.
I figured the guy just had it set up for 134-35 since they seem more plentiful.
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There are dozens of different needle sizing systems. Your machine, and almost all industrial walking foot machines use a 135 X 17 needle. The 135 is a metric number and the 17 is the U.S. equivalent. My machines have tags on them that tell me what needles to use. I'm sure your machine is set up fine.
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If a dealer would have one for $2,000 to $2400 depending on the condition and model, it would be a reasonable price. New ones go for $3,500 to $4500. That would be for a 20" model. 30" models would be more.
This is a behemoth Singer. From what I can see in the photo of yours it is similar. It has a pneumatic setup for needle lift and reverse and an early iteration of a servo motor setup made by Mitsubishi. I didn't get a chance to measure the arm but there's no doubt by looking at it that it can hit the middle of a door panel. It actually came from Freightliner's upholstery shop. They used it to make their door panels. It has been completely gone through and in tip top shape. He wants $2,000 for it.
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That's a good price from a dealer.
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This is what I call a "sewing machine"
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Jealous down here in Iowa Dan
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Dan, now that you have had the machine in your shop for a while, what have you used it for?
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I used it to sew the stitching in the inserts for the seat covers on a 1966 AMC Marlin, which basically paid for the machine. I used it to do other pleats in other inserts, I used it to sew fabric on to door panels, and I will use it to sew a "hard" headliner around the perimeter. All of this stuff was what I bought the machine for in the first place.

The picture is of one of the Marlin inserts. The thread is size 276 nylon which I couldn't sew with either of my other two machines. I needed that big of thread to match what was original.
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I really want a long arm. My local sewing machine guy has a similar one to yours but it has pneumatic knee lift and electronic needle lift. For $2500. Seems like when it is useful, it would be REALLY useful..
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Exactly right. It's clumsy to use on smaller stuff, but on other stuff it's great.

That's not a bad price, but I only gave $1500 for mine. The guy I bought it from gave me a sewing test before he would sell it to me! He wanted to make sure whoever got it could run it.
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