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Old 08-05-2013, 12:06 PM
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Latest and greatest in paint gun technology? You be the judge.

Last week had the 3M rep come by the shop with the newest in primer guns, you thought the disposable cups were costly and an overkill? How about disposable spray nozzles! They are $4 each. Brilliant marketing, create a new product that the consumer must buy, brilliant! Consumables, talk to anyone in the toothpaste/deodorant/toilet paper/etc business, oh yeah baby! Money money money money, MONEY!

But honestly, I could see it working well in high volume production shop but man, what will they think of next?





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Old 08-05-2013, 12:36 PM
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I have a hard time believing that the disposables would flow as well as a nicely machined metal nozzle. Leaves me wondering why just a primer gun, why not base and clear?
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Old 08-05-2013, 12:47 PM
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Yeah I have always believed the primer gun is simply a quality gun that you don't clean so well. You don't want a piece of crap because after all, that is your foundation for goodness sakes.

He told us that people are using them for paint and clear though, of course someone is going to do that, it doesn't make it right.

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Well, that's new...but it does make sense, now there is no cleaning at all and for a production shop where they have 4 or 5 vehicles to be primed at the end of every day...it makes sense. If your a non production shop, well that could get costly...but then, I'm a one man show and I use their PPS cup and liner system.

Bob, I understand what your saying and agree that nothing today can compete with machined metal parts for a spray gun...that being said, that's today. If we where to have told people 50 and 60 years ago that bumpers grills and door panels would be made of plastic, cars wouldn't have full frames and made to fold in the event of an accident alone with the windshield of the car being a key piece in structural design...they would have laughed at us...you know...now that I'm posting it, I think I wouldn't have believed it back then either...LOL. You just never know.

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Old 08-05-2013, 01:03 PM
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Well, that's new...but it does make sense, now there is no cleaning at all and for a production shop where they have 4 or 5 vehicles to be primed at the end of every day...it makes sense. If your a non production shop, well that could get costly...but then, I'm a one man show and I use their PPS cup and liner system.

Bob, I understand what your saying and agree that nothing today can compete with machined metal parts for a spray gun...that being said, that's today. If we where to have told people 50 and 60 years ago that bumpers grills and door panels would be made of plastic, cars wouldn't have full frames and made to fold in the event of an accident alone with the windshield of the car being a key piece in structural design...they would have laughed at us...you know...now that I'm posting it, I think I wouldn't have believed it back then either...LOL. You just never know.

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Well yes come to think of it Ray, a home hobbiest can benefit from it because he has no gun cleaner and disposing of waste thinner is a pain. Disposable stuff isn't a bad idea in that case either.

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Ray, I know what you are saying. Who would have believed we would have plastic intake manifolds? Carbon fiber chassis? New stuff - better stuff, is being made all the time. These might work just fine. If they become popular I would see cheap knock-offs being made and sold at Harbor Freight. Bob
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if it aint broke, don't fix it. 3M has a knack for overpricing everything. They copied Durablocks and then had the nerve to charge MORE. WOW!
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I saw those a while back at the paint store. Counter guy said the big sales pitch is if you forget to clean the poly primer,2k primer,epoxy primer out of the gun after use, just toss the tip away and start fresh for $5.
I thought about trying one, but have not yet had a reason to.
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As a hobby kind of guy these days I have found that cleaning guns is time consuming and costly in cleaning materials so using a disposal gun makes sense to me. I am just waiting for someone to try one a let us know how it worked. Did it do a decent job?

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and disposing of waste thinner is a pain.
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yeah, let me spend an arm and a leg disposing a cup of thinner. Gimme a break. Let the cup sit outside for a day or two and what do you know, it's all gone.
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They probably only cost 25 cents to make...in some other country to boot..if you forget to clean your guns you really need to pay the price and clean the hardend stuff out thats how you learn not to forget...700.00 for a paint gun is crazy enough ....I do like the disposable mixing cups they last a long ,long time if you clean them out...
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yeah, let me spend an arm and a leg disposing a cup of thinner. Gimme a break. Let the cup sit outside for a day or two and what do you know, it's all gone.
iilegal in your state...and many others..
I'd not be to open about doing that..
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iilegal in your state...and many others..
I'd not be to open about doing that..
big deal. When you let oil companies clean up their own oil spill with no oversight whatsoever don't go expecting me to go head over heels over a cup of thinner. Like I said, gimme a break. I sleep well at night.
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Being 3M they wont stay ~four bucks each for long. With the exception of tapes, I do my dammedest to use any other good brand - anything but 3M if possible. Disposing of gun cleaner - I have a 4' diameter oak tree stump in the woods behind my house that has absorbed many a cup of nasty stuff or if I end up with lots of it, put it in an empty metal can and take it to one of the special days for that kind of stuff at our local dump along with old pesticides, house paint and dead fluorescent lights. When I drive alongside an AMTRAK locomotive spewing out a heavy black cloud alongside of Lake Champlain, it makes my little "contribution" pretty dang tiny.
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I'll stick to my rugged finex primer gun and the nerds can stick to that overpriced junk.
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