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Old 01-14-2007, 10:15 AM
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Leaf spring clips

I'm taking apart my leaf springs to clean them up and to remove a few leafs.
I had to grind off the rivets that hold the clips together. What can i use in place of the rivets when i put the leafs back together. I was thinking of a carriage bolt and grinding the head flat. Any help would be appreciated.

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Check out the farm store, Tractor Supply TSC etc. They often have very large soft steet rivets that used to be used in farming applications.
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Check out the farm store, Tractor Supply TSC etc. They often have very large soft steet rivets that used to be used in farming applications.

Ya, steet,,,,,,,, that's like ARN without so much carbon in it......
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Went to TSC and they did not have them. Check local fab shop with no luck.
I'll think of something sooner or later

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I take 2 pieces of steel strap with a bolt at each end and bolt them around the spring.....Stiffens them up nicely.
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Went to TSC and they did not have them. Check local fab shop with no luck.
I'll think of something sooner or later

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Lots of the old farm machinery, antique stuff, 20s, 30s, 40s, used those rivets. Check around that type of source if a local spring place can't help you. I bet some of the antique tractor guys know exactly what you need.
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I take 2 pieces of steel strap with a bolt at each end and bolt them around the spring.....Stiffens them up nicely.
Poncho,

How thick of a material is required so that it holds up? Are you talking about that stuff you hang pipe with (full of pre drilled holes) or something of a heavier gauge? Also, if you do not run the thru rivit, can the band tend to wander right off the end of the leaf?
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Heavier gauge.....at least 1/4" thick and at least an inch wide and longer than the spring is wide, plus bolt width......Drill holes in each end and bolt together. It wont slide as easy as they usually do, thus stiffening the spring a bit. Some others may not agree that this is OK, but I have never had a problem.
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Making rivets from bolts

Make a rivet from a bolt by annealing (softening) it with a gas torch. Once you have it softened, it is easy to shape on a lathe or spin in a drill press to the dimension you need. Anneal the part by heating to bright cherry red, about the color you would use if tempering the steel. Be careful not to overheat and burn out the carbon. Once the entire part is to an even color, drop it in a can 1/2 filled with DRY sand, then cover with more dry sand and allow to cool slowly. If starting with a bolt much longer than the finished rivet, just heat the part that will be in the finished rivet.
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Make a rivet from a bolt by annealing (softening) it with a gas torch. Once you have it softened, it is easy to shape on a lathe or spin in a drill press to the dimension you need. Anneal the part by heating to bright cherry red, about the color you would use if tempering the steel. Be careful not to overheat and burn out the carbon. Once the entire part is to an even color, drop it in a can 1/2 filled with DRY sand, then cover with more dry sand and allow to cool slowly. If starting with a bolt much longer than the finished rivet, just heat the part that will be in the finished rivet.
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....Drill holes in each end and bolt together.
I should have read your original post more carefully. I was visioning one piece of steel bent around the leaves and then one bolt at the bottom to tighten things up. The two pieces (one top and one bottom) with two bolts makes absolute sense...now that I read it correctly. (Just a passing bout of Old Guy Syndrome me thinks.)
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Actually, I have seen them made that way too......All it does though is keep the springs in line and can slip off the multileaf area.
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Thanks guys for the input. I know i will use one of them.

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