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Old 10-26-2006, 01:28 PM
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legal or illegal? you tell me!!!!!

i live in northern california and for the last couple of years ive been doing a lot of restores. i was warned then fined for painting in my garage. i learned my lesson and now rent a booth. i still do all the body work, then all the wet sanding and buffing stuff in my garage. i get hassled for this all the time. im carefull not to let the contaminated water from wetsanding to hit the street, and all the dust from sanding, i feel i control in the appropriate manner. is it illegal, or should it be, to work out of you garage? am i being harrassed? has anyone out there expierience this type of problem? any advice would be appreciated. thanks

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have you checked with your city to find out the zoning code or occupational license requirements?
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If you are in a residential zoned area then one is basically out of luck in running a business from ones home..people do get by under those circumstance if all they are doing is their own car and not bringing in customer cars..

When one brings in customer cars to work on then all kinds of rules are implemented..

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The laws in other states don't apply to CA.

They have their own set of Marriage laws and VOC laws.
CA is divided in to four different voc zones to give an example.

Buffing of course is not VOC related to a degree but compound falling on the floor would be county law, so that is where you need to check for rules and regulations.
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Your main problem is where you live. Only the dweebs in charge of California would be stupid enough to crap on a hobbyists like they do. You can't even fart in California without violating their VOC regulations.
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Your main problem is where you live. Only the dweebs in charge of California would be stupid enough to crap on a hobbyists like they do. You can't even fart in California without violating their VOC regulations.
AMEN!!!------

And then being so close to all the Berkley hippies that never moved from home.

If your own car--I see no problems
Cars for profit----problem there

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and i thought ca was a hodrod state,are there any laws about boom box and speakers in cars ,there should be
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:02 PM
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Watch out guys, don't be so cocky one day you will have some kooks get some power and you will be in the same boat.

isaacray, check out this tread over at Autobody101 for some info.(click here)

Get down to your city hall and ask to see the regs on working in your garage on YOUR OWN cars. Every city is different so you really need to get down there and don't listen to all the "Sky is falling" stuff until you have more REAL information.

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I'm so glad I live in the south!!!!! Dang left coast rules and laws!!
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Woman I used to live with, her nephew painted cars in his garage for other people. And the city came down on him hard.
(no thanks to nosey neighbors)

This was in the mid-1908s in Richmond, IN.

You think you're safe cause you live in another state and what happens in California is okay cause that's Califonia.

Hate to tell you but for some reason our other state politicians look to Califorinia for guidience and follow suit.
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"This was in the mid-1908s in Richmond, IN"

RJ.... Never realized you were that old. LOL

It really isn't unusual for our problems to start in California. Atleast it usually takes a while for them to make it across the country.

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just got another friendly visit from my towns air quality people. im not painting what so ever, even got receipts from the booth i know rent, but they refused to even look at them. to top it off i go out to get the paper and guess whos garage is on the front page.......MINE......taken about 2 months ago when i was painting. headline saying "BUSTING CODE IGNORERS" aint that something else. they use a picture from before trying to make seem like its still like that. check it out www.cerescourier.com dated wednesday oct. 11 vol.96 no.38. they totally twisted everything. what shall i do? oh and that 70 nova, it was towed, but later painted and striped. whats next?..............we shall see
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controversy sells papers

Take the receipts of your booth rental and a photo of it, talk to an attorney about it all first and ask about slander.
Otherwise, if it was your own vehicle and not paint, you were OK during 1970s/1980s. I wonder who is cleaning their driveway and all that oil? envireonmental laws still pertain.
A tough brake, if you only lived in a place with a status of residential and business, you would get an ease, though on the painting, they would get you about the envireonmental laws anyways.
Hmm Think of checking into a non city - county dwelling? County was always more relaxed and only the sherrif could touch you.
(Former Santa Clara and Alameda amidst others )
On the dual zone property, that would take some research, but might be worth it for you. Either that or GREEN ACRES is the place for me, Farm living....
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Tell them you weren't ignoring the code. Ask them how you can ignore something that you don't care about? LOL

I guess that is one of the hazards of living in a foreign country.

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I had sort of the same problem with the city I live in. A neighbor called the city to complain about a car I was working on under a carport rather than a permanently enclosed structure. The city pretty much told me I had to get rid of it or I would be fined. After a while the city would just show up and harass me. I ended up going to the City attorney office and speaking with them, attended some city council meetings where my roommate and I got up and addressed the situation. After a small letter writing campaign the newspaper got wind of it and did this small story. The city ended up backing down and the city council ended up having a business meeting to talk about changing the code.
I would suggest looking at your city codes and contacting the correct people. Go about it tactfully and intelligently and you might get places
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