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Old 09-26-2004, 12:15 AM
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In my personal opinion, all drugs should be legal with the same restrictions as Alcohol
That is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard.Lets make crack legal,might as well make herion legal too,hey lets not forget meth.Since were at it,lets make rape and crimes against children legal too!I mean heck if drugs are legal,then the actions that result from a useless junkie on them should not be punished.Correct?Subject A goes out and smokes him some rock,rapes the little girl next door because "he couldnt help it",so he should not be responsible.Then the very same people who believe that drugs should all be legal gets thrown up in arms because the law enforcement wasnt there to protect the innocents being hurt by these now legal activities.Give me a break.I sure dont want a junkie next door to me,I dont want a crack house around the corner,or those inbred idiots baking meth in their kitchens with chemicals powerful enough to level the house that I worked so hard to have built .Id shoot the POS and not bat an eye!!






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Old 09-26-2004, 01:17 AM
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That is about the dumbest thing I have ever heard.Lets make crack legal,might as well make herion legal too,hey lets not forget meth.Since were at it,lets make rape and crimes against children legal too!I mean heck if drugs are legal,then the actions that result from a useless junkie on them should not be punished.Correct?Subject A goes out and smokes him some rock,rapes the little girl next door because "he couldnt help it",so he should not be responsible.Then the very same people who believe that drugs should all be legal gets thrown up in arms because the law enforcement wasnt there to protect the innocents being hurt by these now legal activities.Give me a break.I sure dont want a junkie next door to me,I dont want a crack house around the corner,or those inbred idiots baking meth in their kitchens with chemicals powerful enough to level the house that I worked so hard to have built .Id shoot the POS and not bat an eye!!






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Yes it is hard not too cuss when people as closed minded as you post crap like that. I don't use drugs anymore, but I did for many years and I never raped a child like you claim drug users do. Better look at reality. The vast majority of child molesters in prison are NOT drug users. And "IF" all drugs were legal, you wouldn't see those inbred idiots baking meth in their kitchens with chemicals powerful enough to level the house that you worked so hard to have built, there would be no reason too cook it themselves. They'd just run down to there local bar and get high, just as you go there too drink. Use your head for something more then a place to put a hat. Being illegal hasn't stopped drug usage in this country. It's only made things like crack houses, and meth labs. As far as the non drug crimes you mentioned, If a non drug user is held accountable for those actions, being high or drunk is not a excuse, those actions are crimes. I believe Alcohol causes just as much problems as the dope does if not more.
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Exactly,saying that drug users will go down and just buy their drugs is also a dumb statement,if your hopped up on that where do they get all their money,Surely not from working.If they could do that so easily they would not be manufacturing drugs in their kitchen.Wrong again on the druggie child molester thing.Bud I know a thing or two about the prison life.Did I state that you raped a kid,no I did not,but when these idiots are out there everyting is an oppurtunity to them.Pot smokers chill,heavy drug users become violent,have no care as to what may happen to themselves or to others.I do not drink,dont do the drugs and stiil stand by MY previous post.I am not here to start in on an argument,but to state that all drugs should be legal is dumber than owl *!!

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Forgive my ignorance but maybe someone who approves of smoking pot can help me understand this. My younger sister can't give a convincing reason but perhaps one of you can. I might add that she smokes about 30 joints a day. Chainsmokes them if you may. Anyway...

My Mother passed away 19 months ago from ciggarette smoking induced lung cancer. Smoking ciggarettes, of course, is a known carcinogen. Now ciggarettes, as bad as they may be for your health at least have a filter on them and a joint, does not. Even though smoking pot is suppose to have some "beneficial" side-effects and is "natural", perhaps someone can enlighten me as to how, inhaling smoke of any kind, is healthy? Isn't the human body designed to take in air, not smoke?

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Exactly,saying that drug users will go down and just buy their drugs is also a dumb statement,if your hopped up on that where do they get all their money,Surely not from working.If they could do that so easily they would not be manufacturing drugs in their kitchen.Wrong again on the druggie child molester thing.Bud I know a thing or two about the prison life.Did I state that you raped a kid,no I did not,but when these idiots are out there everyting is an oppurtunity to them.Pot smokers chill,heavy drug users become violent,have no care as to what may happen to themselves or to others.I do not drink,dont do the drugs and stiil stand by MY previous post.I am not here to start in on an argument,but to state that all drugs should be legal is dumber than owl *!!
Well, as a former drug user (I used meth for over 20 years, and did sell it for a time) I do know quite a bit more about the dope life then most people. The vast majority of drug users I've known did work. Yes, there are some people who steal to support their habit, but in all honesty, I believe they would steal without using drugs. So are you putting heavy drugs in the same group as alcohol then ??? Because I've seen more drunks in fights then drug users. Most drug users I knew did meth. I can't remember any of them getting violent. What you see on TV and read in the newspaper is usually the exception to the rule, not the norm. So you're saying you know how things are in prison ? Have you done time ?? I did a few years on a dope case. Yes, I got caught selling some dope. Did my number and got out. I've ran into a few baby rapers and in all honesty, they were not the same kind of people I knew that does/did drugs. I have seen people get arrested for whatnot and try too say they only did it because they were on dope. That a crock !!! People claim that too try too get out of going to prison. They think they'll do 30 days in a treatment center and go free. I'm speaking from personal experiences, what I've seen in my life. I won't BS anyone. Yes, there are some people way out of control on dope, but there are also people way out of control on alcohol and that's perfectly legal. Sorry if you don't see the whole point too what I'm trying too say. I'm not the best at wording things. You have every right to your opinion " I am not here to start in on an argument,but to state that all drugs should be legal is dumber than owl * " , but I believe everyone should have the right too decide to use or not to use. I think if the government can say it's okay too use alcohol, then they shouldn't be able too say it's not okay too use any other drug !!!!! I'm not trying too promote or glorifie drugs in any way. I just think if alcohol is legal, so should everything else.

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How many?

To answer Nightfire's question about accidents---- This year alone on the Lake I work on--- 1 section--- 87 drug related violations, 123 BUI's, 16 accidents involving drugs, 2 deaths drug related, 19 accidents involving drinking, 3 deaths involving alcohol, 2 Meth labs busted. 1 death is to much.
You can sit back and watch. You know how they operate a boat if they are under the infulence of anything. And just think the ones that don'ty get caught load their boat up to their tow vehicle after being in the sun all day and get on the road drive. So thats at least a 30 foot missile going down the road.
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At first I wasn't going to comment because this subject has been beat to death by every generation since I was a kid (I'm 64 years young).
Got the answer for you - go look up some long-time users and ask them how they got started on the hard drugs (because by now they are probably using them) and they will probably tell you their introduction to the hard stuff they now need started with pot. Also, if you want to grow up to be like them just knock yourself out.
Been there, done that, quit because of drug testing (I was an industrial fireman/medic) and glad I did (I just imagine some of the injured I worked on are too).
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I know how they got started....pot

Been there and seen the consequences of drug aduse in action. But some people want to live the life and will so go ahead and do it. No skin off my nose. I survived and you just might....or not....GAS!


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Re: Re: legalization of marijuana

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Before you make a decision about marijuana being harmless, you should consider the fact that you haven't been around long enough to see some of your friends live's become ruined from drug use, or come to an untimely end. Maybe you have a friend or two that are potheads. You probably don't think too much of it right now.

Right now, at 15 years of age, you live at home. If you have some pothead friends that are your own age, they live at home.

One of the most common effects of marijuana use, is that the users have no ambition.


alright, im gonna go out on a ledge here.

i do smooke pot, but m not a heavy user, just recreational. maybe 2 bowls a month (at the most) and i have held a job for about a month now. and i don't plan on using it more. whats wrong with that?

now everything i have in the quote box is true. i am only 15, my friends are a little older, but not much. so i haven't seen all the long term effects. so in that perspection, i have no opinion.

hey z3pr and RC castle, try to keep your posts civil (you're doing a good job know of it) but lets keep this from the dump so we can have more opinions please.

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Man Im cool,Im done with it.I had to get upset about it though.z3pr if you are off the junk,good I am glad and proud for you(No sarcasm implied)I have just been around it my whole life until I got out on my own.Small story as to why I am so much against it.Grew up in Iroquois Projects,Every day you see something involving drugs.Have you ever got to see someone get shot,in the right side of their temple,just above the eye,over drugs?Have you ever got to witness a guy that everybody was scared of get a hatchet in his chect over drugs?How about your coolest bud refuse to let go of that one huzzy who he is so much in"love"with,get mad one night,break into her apartment and beat the guy she is dating now into a comatose pulp?Worse yet!How about one of your buds,gets all high on LSD,smacks his grandparents around(which is something he would not do normally)goes outside and punches his neighbor in the mouth for cutting his grass,then punches his brother in the face for interfering,then when an OFF DUTY police officer shows up to investigate the disturbance,a scuffle ensues and your bud wrestles the gun away and murders the cop.Now you sit on death row,convicted of murder!

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Well, as a former drug user (I used meth for over 20 years, and did sell it for a time) I do know quite a bit more about the dope life then most people. The vast majority of drug users I've known did work. Yes, there are some people who steal to support their habit, but in all honesty, I believe they would steal without using drugs. .


I am not an expert on drugs but I do know that using coke, meth etc, is bloody expensive. Exactly what do the people you know, that use drugs, do for a living?

I think drugs sould be made legal if ( and this should include any mind altering substance ) the user is held responsible for what they do. None of this my mommy beat me/I was hashed man/did not know that I was killing that woman etc.

If you commit the crime you WILL do the time. End of story.

Realistically that will never happen. There are too many bleeding hearts for the criminals.

A man here was beat to the point of leaving him with an 8 year olds mind. The guy that did it got a slap b/c he was "wasted" on drugs and booze.

I say lock and load baby!!!!!
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Something I recommend for new pot smokers is to attend a Marijuana Anonymous meeting and hear interesting stories of peoples lives ruined, their dreams lost, goals never met, the lying, cheating, stealing, denial,etc.

Teenagers in Jr. High and high School are the most vunerable years because of self image, self-esteem. Pot spins you in a direction that isn't healthy for social development. Ambition to be your best isn't important when smoking pot. The goal becomes finding, scoring and finding ways to stay high which means alternative drugs are just around the corner.

When I was 15 I decided I wanted to smoke pot because I was going through alot of stress with my parents and school. I eventually moved on to cocaine, crack, crystal-meth, vicodin, etc. I had two near death experiences with speed. Two times I nearly stopped breathing from smoking Cush.

I always thought I was in total control but I was just lying to myself because the addiction took over my will to enjoy life.
After 15 years of drug abuse which started with casually smoking I tried to quit. Went to MA meetings and got 2 months sobriety. It was very difficult to stop. In fact I've relapsed several times since then.

If your young, choose not to smoke.

Here's a paragraph from federal researchers at the National Institutes of Mental Health:

THC, the chief psychoactive compound found in marijuana, and cannabidiol (CBD), a nonpsychoactive component, both appear to protect brain cells from the damage that often occurs during a stroke. When the brain's blood supply is cut, as occurs during a stroke, THC and CBD act as powerful antioxidants, protecting the brain cells from exposure to toxic levels of the brain chemical called glutamate. This finding also indicates that marijuana may hold medical value in the treatment of brain injuries and diseases such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

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Re: Re: legalization of marijuana

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Before you make a decision about marijuana being harmless, you should consider the fact that you haven't been around long enough to see some of your friends live's become ruined from drug use, or come to an untimely end. Maybe you have a friend or two that are potheads. You probably don't think too much of it right now.

Right now, at 15 years of age, you live at home. If you have some pothead friends that are your own age, they live at home.

One of the most common effects of marijuana use, is that the users have no ambition.

Watch and see what happens to a pothead that is, let's say, 25 years old. Most of them can't survive on their own. There is an ENTIRE world of problems that come from lack of ambition. A few of these items are:

POVERTY
IGNORANCE
POOR CREDIT
VAGRANCY
SOCIALLY WITHDRAWN
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY


These are just a few traits of someone strung out on drugs. Life is tough enough with all of your facultys in tact. I suggest that you run as far as you can from the very appearance of dope and booze. You seem like an intelligent young man.

An intelligent person learns from other's mistakes.

An average person will learn from their own mistakes.

A fool will fail to learn at all.

Who do you want to be?


Exactly.

It should be legal for medical purposes only.
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