Now THAT is what should be outlawed!! MONEY !!! LOL
Root of all evil........

That's it, all greedy, irresponsible people can get off my planet!

I am one of these idiots that has anxiety and Dr. perscribed Buspar wich is the stupid pill to me .I take one and cant keep up with a 30min sitcom .If I smoke a splif,joint,blunt or what ever it seems to set my mind allot straighter than the meds ever did.It's not for everyone and I wouldnt force it upon antbody but for me.....I smoke.And I never heard of anyone selling thier kids,furniture,wife or heaven forbid the car just to get a dime bag!unlike the poisonous and deadly crack.
I think it was a natural drug before drugs were around.and indians smoked piece pipes to make piece.

No, of course not, they just don't get up for work or pay their bills because they want more bud than they can afford being laid off. Point in fact...its illegal....shown to be addictive to some..leading to other drug use and you go to jail if your caught using or selling it. Other than that I have no interest in it.


Tazz


Rat Rods Rule!

This thread is getting pointless. There's way too many closed minded people that can't see past the government propaganda. I'm neutral on this topic. I don't care if it's legal or not. I don't use drugs anymore. I've been on both sides of the issue and I know the truth. Some people can do dope with no ill effects, and others will loss everything over it.

I laid back and did not post on this one for awhile because of my earlier rants.Weed was around for the Indians,but it was no way near as "manufactured" then as now.I smoke those nasty old cigarettes and tried to quit so many times.They are surely the most addictive thing made to this day.I don't believe that anything short of outlawing them will make me quit.My kids have been on me to quit for as long as they have known the outcome of them.My grandfather died from them and my dad has one foot in the ground from them,I also know that I am living on borrowed time myself if I continue.I can almost convince myself that weed if in a controlled form,could be legalized by reading what some members have to say about it,but I still stand firm that if it was legalized that every other drug would soon follow and that would spell disaster.Like has been said several times,alcohol has definitely done more than weed as far as destroying families and lives,just as cigarettes have surely done more damage than weed.This is interesting food for thought guys.Take care...-Ron-

good points.If it was legel it would be abused allot and some people can be addicted to it.I smoked cigs for over 9yrs and I stopped when my 5 yr old was born and havent smoked cigs since.Maybe I have a higher tollerance to addictive things.But you never know what can suck you in........just look at cars!

wow, 8 pages.

now tell me weed ain't popular. LOL

now i know alot of druggies have started with weed and moved up, but i beleive its not because of addiction. not to pot i mean, its an addiction to the high, to th efeeling. some people feel it and can't live without it.

but that dosn't mean everyone that smokes it will move onto coke, acid, 'shroom's, ECT. there is alot of casualy smokers, who do a bowl a week, or simalar that only do it to take an edge off.

why do folks come home and open up a can of beer? just one, not a case. to take the edge off. how many people drink beer and move on to harder liquor? granted, harder liquer aint gonna be as bad on your body as meth, but it can still ruin your life.

today i heard that Marjiuana is good for your eyes sight, any truth to that?

I used to smoke pot and infact i was a victim of peer pressure, my dad was a dope dealer my friends all did it my friends parents were dope dealers, and i had my own share of experiances with dealing, but honestly now i haved smoked pot for about a year now and i find that after having a girlfriend, a good job and a totaly and undieng love for horsepower and hot rodding i find id rather sit and tweak a big block than smoke a joint and life is alot simpler no wasting cash on munchies and drugs no bionges that never ending nintendo, ive went from a low 60's student to a honmours graduate completing the advanced levels of mechanics, fabrication and im currently working on my autobody( go grade 13) soon i hope to have an apprenticeship in either feild. i owe alot to my girlfriends family whom helped me though the dry times buy since may last year ive been drug free ( except for the bottle now that im 18) i do have a few drinks once in a while but i go to work everyday and i enjoy every aspect of my life i now live on my own pay my own bills and have fun with my cars and everything around them. sure i havent smoked it for 10+ years but i belive its everyones choice, but nothing in this world is good for you in the end it all comes down to personal preference if you need to smoke weed, or what ever your fancy is good awesome thats wonderfull but if you sit down and brain storm and draw and totally invelope your mind in a project to get your buzz on more power to you. i may have like 2 or 3 friends now but i think its worth it to have a good life instead of one thats wrapped around whos packing the pipe next(not saying that thats how it is for everyone) heres something to quote me by:

cars, horsepower,gasoline,big block rumble, hot rodding, drag racing street racing, 454, 460, 17's , flowmaster, boyd, overhaulin, 12 bolt ford chevy cadillac, low pros, rocket stopmp, turbo 350, headers, lowered, bagged, 32', impala, dodge, hemi, crate , 900hp!, old school, vintage, white walls, motocraft......... = My anti drug! long live ford trucks built ford tough (tougher that any rock)

but most of all my girlfriend and her family

heres one to get u started.... ill have more later when i dig the sites out....

regular marijuana smoking is no worse for your health than either drinking regularly, or smoking cigarettes regularly.... cigs are worse.....

as i said ill be back with more sites that i think every anti pot person should see.....

i dont hate everybody thats anti pot... thats not my deal..... everybody is entitled to their opinion, and if yours differs from mine, even on a subject i feel so strongly about, so be it.... not a problem...

the only thing that annoys me is when people are anti pot, when the only things they know about the drug are lies that the DEAmade up as scare tactics...... and thats not even anyones fault except the DEA's.... theres so much bull**** being forced into our heads that its no wonder so many people believe it......

well if u look hard enough, u can find the truth on the whole reason pot is illegal in the first place... ill dig out a page somewhere that tells the modern history of pot (like 1860's onward) and youll be suprised at the stuff that went on..... .

im not trying to change anybodys mind here.... im just going to offer some truthful, NON-BIASED information, that many of you probably havent been fortunate enought to see..... heres one page but ill dig out more later.... peace

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopi...id=JDBDOJOGELGG

check this one out right here.... its a section out of a book called "grass"

http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread/t-511051.html




i understand ur post and agree with most of it....

one thing id like to add..... when you say



ur correct in a way... there is alot of manufacturing.... and when its manufactured out of country, the act of exporting it over international borders in mass quantities usually involves organized crime....... example - mexico to US....

but on the other hand, its an easy plant to grow and with practice, its not hard to grow pot far superior than anything ull find on the streets, and anything that has crossed international borders.... transporting pot packed up in bags long distances will degrade the quality of the product.... the best pot ull see is "the strain ur buddys growin organicly down the street"... locally, homegrown pot is much better quality and theres no crime involved, except the the fact that cultivation is a felony....

now look at it this way.... if you decriminize cultivation (make it a fine, like a parking ticket) , there will be no need for an international market, or to move pot long distances at all, because so many people would be growing it themselves, that it wouldnt even be profitable to sell (supply and demand)....

with that said, the reason pot causes any crime at all is the fact that its illegal.... decriminalizing pot would actually be safer as far as pot related crime goes....

the only problem is, if everyones growing their own pot, then the governtments not making any cash off it..... right now they make tons of cash off it.....

they arrest you for possesion... they give you the option of going to jail or going to rehab... of course your going to go to rehab....who wants to be in jail? but the thing is, you dont need rehab if your smoking pot.... y not save beds for the dopesick people withdrawing from opiates who really need the beds?.... rehabs expensive.... thats more money out of your pocket into the govt's pockets..... then they charge you to piss in a cup every 2 weeks till your off probation.... that doesnt include court fees.....

the option of "rehab or jail" for pot related offences means that the ratio between people in rehab for pot compared to the total number of people in rehab becomes drastically inflated...... then the govt turns around and uses that bull**** stat as propaganda to keep people thinking its bad... "over 60% of all rehab patients are in for pot" .... well no **** they just didnt wanna go to jail.... they didnt really need to be there in the first place......

thats all for now... peace

i got another article here.... its an excerpt out of the july 02 playboy

it was posted by a member at another message board that im familiar with.... its worth a read tho if ur looking to make an educated decision on this topic..... if you believe all the propaganda out there today, u might as well give this info a try.... its not hard stuff to grasp....

if anybodys actually read this far down my post, i hope ive enlightened you to something new, even if i havent altered ur opinion.... as i said earlier, im not here to change anyones opinion, im here to provide u information you may have been deprived of, allowing you to make a better educated desision....

anyways, here the article

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leagilize it
fi these kids want to smoke pot let them do it who cares any ways its there body let them do what ever the * they want wit it, and there will be less kids in jail so we can make room for the real nut jobs, the cops are spendin more time arrestin kids for drugs when they could be out preventing gang violence, all there dooin is havin a little fun. besides drinkin is way more harm ful to the user and inocent pedestrians.look at the smilie icons would you rather have this guy driving or this guy i rest my case

The other day a few people I work with were out after work when one said "have you ever noticed that even though pot is illegal everybody has it." That is such a true statement. I'm 45 yrs old and the vast majority of people I know or have ever met smoke pot and can readily buy it. In my life I've met people from all walks of life, steal workers to doctors, yuppies to rednecks and the one thing that most of them had/have in common is weed.

Most of the people I know now smoke pot and have for most of their lives. These are successful people with good jobs, nice homes ect. Yeh, I've had friends who have become junkies, coke heads or alcoholics but they had other issues that they were trying to hide from. Most people I know that smoke pot have never done harder drugs and if they have it had nothing to do with pot. I drank and did coke and extasy long before I ever smoked pot. I don't do any of it now because that part of my life has past. I had a lot of fun but now I just don't feel the need to do it anymore. (If it were legal I might still smoke now and then though)

So I guess what I'm getting at is that yes, pot should be legal and regulated like alcohol. It is so readily available as it is, so why waste tax dollars and jail space busting people for something that in my experience is less harmful than alcohol? Of course we're talking about pot here not the harder drugs.

MIke C.

well I do not smoke any more but I have no problem with it. As far as I see it if it was legal it would just be more tax money for the country to try to get out of debt with.

There are far more deaths due to alchohol than weed and it is legal.