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robin58 01-24-2006 12:52 PM

Lincoln Welders - Is there a difference
 
For the life of me I cannot see the difference between the specifications of these Lincoln welders:

Model SP-175T (Specifications )

and

Model Pro Mig (Specifications )
Model Weld-Pak 175HD (Specifications )

The top one has a MSRP of around $880 but can be found for less. The bottom two seem to go for around $600 but can be found on eBay for $450. Best I can tell the bottom two are simply "packaged" for sale by various retailers. Being realistic I assume there are differences otherwise it would be hard to explain the several hundred dollar difference.

Does anyone know what the differences (if any) are?

If, there are substantial differences, then in all honesty I would probably end up getting a Millermatic 175, but the Lincoln at $450 definitely has peaked my interest.

boatbob2 01-24-2006 03:28 PM

lincoln welders
 
i dont know the difference for sure,i think the different # are for the thickness of metal they will weld, i have a weld pac 155,i use it with the gas for a true mig welder instead of just a wire feed welder,it has welded everything i needed on my cars( 48 ford coupe,34 ford pickup and my 1966 king midget) if youre going to weld 3/8 or more thickness ,go with the 175,if less go with the smaller one.

35WINDOW 01-24-2006 04:59 PM

robin58,

I wanted to know myself on a few of these Models, so I called the Lincoln Technical Department. Nice guys, and they told me that the Sp175T and the Pro Mig 175 were identical, except the badging. One is a "retail" Product (Pro Mig-read Lowe's), the other for the Lincoln Distributors.

I am not certain about the Weld-Pak, however-

robin58 01-24-2006 07:47 PM

Thanks 35window, that I think was the answer I was looking for. A comparison on Lincoln's website of the other "retail" variations of the "175" all seem to for the most part be identical. Some appear to be setup for gas as a primary and flux-core as secondary, but other than that the specs all came up as "shared".

PrimeMover 01-25-2006 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 35WINDOW
robin58,

I wanted to know myself on a few of these Models, so I called the Lincoln Technical Department. Nice guys, and they told me that the Sp175T and the Pro Mig 175 were identical, except the badging. One is a "retail" Product (Pro Mig-read Lowe's), the other for the Lincoln Distributors.
I am not certain about the Weld-Pak, however-

Just looking at the specs., the tech. department might have givin you a bum steer here. Sure, the three machines here all have similar duty cycles and output ratings but, the 175T runs on 130V input voltage (120V where I come from) and the Pro Mig and the 175HD have a rated input voltage of 208-230.
You'll need to run these two machines, the pro-mig and the 175HD, with two hot leads and a neutral (220V) unless you have 208 three phase power where you are.

If you're looking for a machine that will plug into a common household 20A duplex receptical and work, I'd go with the 175T. Otherwise, you'll be taping into the stove or the clothes dryer with the other two machines.

35WINDOW 01-25-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrimeMover
Just looking at the specs., the tech. department might have givin you a bum steer here. Sure, the three machines here all have similar duty cycles and output ratings but, the 175T runs on 130V input voltage (120V where I come from) and the Pro Mig and the 175HD have a rated input voltage of 208-230.
You'll need to run these two machines, the pro-mig and the 175HD, with two hot leads and a neutral (220V) unless you have 208 three phase power where you are.

If you're looking for a machine that will plug into a common household 20A duplex receptical and work, I'd go with the 175T. Otherwise, you'll be taping into the stove or the clothes dryer with the other two machines.


PrimeMover,

I would like to respectfully disagree here, the Spec sheet on the SP175T states that it is a 208/230 machine with a 130 AMP Rated Output Current (same as the Pro Mig 175 and, now that I am looking at it, the Weld Pak-could they all be the same?). Amazingly, they all even weigh the same! Could it be that we are looking in two different places? I am looking at the Spec sheets off of the Lincoln site-

PrimeMover 01-25-2006 07:21 PM

I read a little further and your right. I was going with the spec sheet at the bottom of the page. The duty cycle for the pro mig and the 175HD is broke down for 208V and 230V and the 175T is not. Why? I don't know. Those machines look just like the little 120 volt machine I've used to do light repair work out in the field with. I guess I just had a brain fart.
My guess would be, there's a difference in transformer configuration between the two. But the fact that they weigh the same shoots that idea down too. It's probably boils down to a marketing ploy so they can offer a wider range of products without changing anything but the catalog ID and the price.


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