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Old 09-14-2013, 11:42 PM
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A little help with research Ford guys

I've got a '90, 5.0 Lincoln engine.
What 331 rotating, balanced assembly would you go with
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I've got a '90, 5.0 Lincoln engine.
What 331 rotating, balanced assembly would you go with
and why?
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Hello Pat, my question would be:
Why would you begin with a tiny little motor and then spend hard-earned money to make it a little bigger? Why would you not buy a larger motor to begin with? I never understood this line of thinking.
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why not get the 347 stroker kit? About the Same money , lots more cubes...more torque.
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If it were track only, the 347 would be OK.If you are building street/strip I would lean toward the 331 because of the piston design in a 347 they tend to be oil burners after a while: 331 or 347 stroker? pros and cons? | Mustang Forums at StangNet The 351W is beefier and a 408 stroker is a good idea also.Also something to consider is all the good aftermarket heads are drilled for the 351W 1/2" bolts.
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Tech - sometimes it's just because that's what the poster wants, not what you think they should have.

LATECH - that 347 has come inherent problems if the components aren't carefully chosen - such as the bottom piston ring intersecting the wrist pin bore and with the potential of increased oil consumption. Coast does make a rod and piston assy that doesn't have that ring/wrist pin bore hole problem but is pretty costly. Then there is the rod ratio and side loading which for a street engine might not be a real problem but to a racer - maybe. And next, grinding connecting rod reliefs in the block are a PITA for a 347 build.

To the OP - most assembles that you buy in 'kit' form may be close as far as balance, but with a Ford, you need to be really careful as there are 3 ways Ford balanced a 'W' design engine - 28 in oz. 50 in oz and zero. A rebalance of whatever 'kit' I purchased would be the only way I would even consider. That '90 Lincoln woukd be 50 in oz as stock, but 28 would be easier to assemble aftermarket components, i.e. harmonic balancer, flex plate and torque converter as well as the engine internals. I'm considering a 331 for my '31 Ford as that will be at least a 9+ percent increase in cid and with the right parts, a bunch more hp as well as torque. The 331 is a good balance between a 302 and a 347.

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Tech - sometimes it's just because that's what the poster wants, not what you think they should have. Dave W
Thanks for your thoughtful response Dave. Still makes no sense to me.
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If it were track only, the 347 would be OK.If you are building street/strip I would lean toward the 331 because of the piston design in a 347 they tend to be oil burners after a while: 331 or 347 stroker? pros and cons? | Mustang Forums at StangNet The 351W is beefier and a 408 stroker is a good idea also.Also something to consider is all the good aftermarket heads are drilled for the 351W 1/2" bolts.
He already has a basic 302

As far as heads - just a set of bushings will fix that 1/2 -7/16 dilemma:http://www.summitracing.com/parts/tfs-51400419
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Thanks for your thoughtful response Dave. Still makes no sense to me.
Richard - I'm always here to add some fun and laughs.
I don't disagree that more cid is often better - but sometimes you just need to make do with what you have or ...... just 'gasp' want. Then sometimes it's just best to respond to the OP's question positively rather then add a a personal bias, But we really don't have to agree, do we?

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Richard - I'm always here to add some fun and laughs.
I don't disagree that more cid is often better - but sometimes you just need to make do with what you have or ...... just 'gasp' want. Then sometimes it's just best to respond to the OP's question positively rather then add a a personal bias, But we really don't have to agree, do we?
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Dave, perhaps if you look at it as if I'm talking to the other some-odd-thousand guys who are reading this, rather than talking to the OP, it will make more sense to you. If I can impress several thousand young fellows that it really makes no sense to start small, spend a lot of money and end up small, then perhaps I have made a difference in the way they will think about their next project. Now, if the OP had included a blower in the mix, on a 5.0 motor, I probably wouldn't be writing this.
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Thanks guys

Thanks killer, I got one answer I was looking for.
And they've got a sale on now.

Thanks for the link Jeff

And thank you Dave thats good information.
I may have some questions for you later, if you don't mind.

Richard
This is a budget build with what I've got to work with.
After you retire you'll understand the term fixed income.
This Lincoln engine and 4 speed auto trany had 140,000 mi
for $500. And now I've got it apart I believe the milage, although the oil was black. The sbc chevy in the 49 has plenty of poop, but leaks oil every where. And there is nothing like the sound of a stroked Ford.
This cars going to be my daily driver, with a few trips down the track,
don't need big power. Horse power and torque don't win bracket races.
I know from stroker kits in shovel heads not to push the limit, that
347 is probably about it. Never much cared for short skirt pistons.
Short skirts are for girls.
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I know what you mean about budget so here are some more links you should check out,your 1990 AOD is a good unit and it has the later lubrication upgrades and improved valve body and is not computer controled you can learn a lot here: Click Click Racing - Click Click Racing there is also a huge amount of information here: SBFTECH.com Experienced Small Block Ford Tech - Index sites like this and the Corral can sometimes be a good place to fish for parts many of these guys will buy the latest stuff and sell off perfectly good used parts.When building an SBF "best bang for the buck" is better flowing heads so try to keep that in the budget.Also are you going to keep the FEI or go to a Carb intake? You might get some ideas here:http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/engi...g-331-cid.html
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Dave, perhaps if you look at it as if I'm talking to the other some-odd-thousand guys who are reading this, rather than talking to the OP, it will make more sense to you. If I can impress several thousand young fellows that it really makes no sense to start small, spend a lot of money and end up small, then perhaps I have made a difference in the way they will think about their next project. Now, if the OP had included a blower in the mix, on a 5.0 motor, I probably wouldn't be writing this.
Richard.
Richard - if the poster had asked "What is the very best engine I can use?", then yes, I would agree with you but he asked about what he could use to make his already on-hand 5.0/302 a better engine. That's what I answered. He susequently added more information. For those thousands of other young guys - that's grist for another thread. As far as a budget build and being retired - I know you are of that age and maybe retired and I am retired plus living within my limited income means and still being able to enjoy a couple of not inexpensive hobbies. So - you and I may still get crosswise on these kinds of questions, but I'm still, if I have the knowledge, will try to answer the OPs actual question as best possible.

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Short hijack - a blower on an OEM 302/5.0 - not a good choice. The engines, especially roller cam versions, tend to crack through the middle of the lifter valley. A Ford Racing or World block will work nicely though.
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glad to help my friend just got the kit from them last week for $800 sale price. his buddy got one 3 months ago for a lot more. the buddy has is built and running and sounds great, you know he is on his way from around the block.
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