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Old 04-17-2013, 05:05 PM
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Lokar shifter neutral safety switch FAIL.

Wrecked my Diamond T pickup INSIDE the garage today, when I (inadvertently) hit the starter, with the truck in gear. It has a Lokar shifter, with the safety switch adjusted correctly at installation. It has yet to be licensed, so it's not a question repeated use.

The truck crashed into a pole set in a concrete footing I use for pulling damage. The truck hit it after an 8 foot roll, at idle, taking the front bumper, buckling the right front fender and twisting the hood/grill shell/fenders out of alignment, chipping paint on all the panels and laying waste to the bumper and brackets.

The switch was very difficult and finicky to align intially, and seemed unstable. It certainly was.

If you have a Lokar shifter, I'd advise you to check this frequently, or devise another safety switch.

I am NOT a fan of Lokar products right now.

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Pics didn't load first, here's the result of the Lokar neutral "safety" switch fail.
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Did the switch fail or did it slip out of adjustment? would like to hear end results.
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glad no one was hurt, but i do have to say cars just do not start on their own. i feel you may have over look something. In 30 years of working on cars this happened once because the wiring was wrong. was able to rip the coil wire out before any damage.
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I would have to say it failed, even if it only slipped out of adjustment. The truck is under construction for cry'n out loud, hasn't even been driven. The eff'n thing shouldn't need constant adjustment, especially since it wasn't used.

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Old 04-17-2013, 09:23 PM
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That just breaks your heart, darn it! I feel your pain, that is just sickening. Which shifter exactly is it?

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I don't know the model, didn't save the packaging, but it's one with the LONG levers, to mimic the look of the original lever. In addition to the nss adjustment being difficult, and evidently not staying in adjustment, the detent button on top sometimes allows it to be pulled out of "Park" without depressing it. It's a pretty thing, but it's not very dependable.

Unless one likes seeing the results of 4 years of hard work wrapped around a pole.

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That totally sucks to have to repair the damage. Have you contacted Lokar about this? They probably won't do anything to help but just letting them know about it and that you won't ever buy anything from them again might get a response.
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What transmission are you using ,i just finished installing a Lokar 18in .on my truck it is a Turbo 400 ,installed very easy ,but did have a little trouble adjusting neutral safety switch my top button was a little hard to push to unlock shifter ,but I shortened the rod . it works now..like you I have not driven it yet. Sorry to see the damage Very Nice truck.
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I would have to say it failed, even if it only slipped out of adjustment. The truck is under construction for cry'n out loud, hasn't even been driven. The eff'n thing shouldn't need constant adjustment, especially since it wasn't used.

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use error.. the user sets the switch..
not the factory..
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Since the nanny's removed our earlier comments -

Even though you and I have had a disagreement I am truly sorry for the damages to your very nice truck - it sucks and am glad no one was hurt

With so many parts being made elsewhere and often with suspect quality, yes, you should bench test as much as possible, especially electrical equipment and also contact Lokar after you make sure you didn't do something incorrectly. The shifter is a quality product and their line up header.
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Well, it worked properly initially, so it seems that not having been used, it should still function properly. There's plenty of error to go around, both on my part, which I freely admitted to, and for the part. If you read it, what I suggested initially was NOT to rely on the switch, but to check if you have one to ensure it's working. Which, I believe, is exactly what you said, Irelands child. So, we agree it sucks to have my pretty truck wrapped around a post.

What I'm saying is the switch should STAY in adjustment, it should work when user error calls for it to work.

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What I'm saying is the switch should STAY in adjustment, it should work when user error calls for it to work.

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only if you tighten the items holding it in adjustment
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su cks all around, good luck fixing it.. I always block the wheels.. just incase..
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Lokar and Gennie share a common issue (OK - a couple of issues)

I was not aware of the N-start problem until this thread, but I have had that (start in any gear) issue with a Hurst Pro-Matic II so I'm not surprised.

The other issue that got VERY expensive for me is the lack of positive detents between gear positions. In my case, being a certifiable dimwit, I was manually shifting at the strip. Went straight from "2" to "N", spread an otherwise perfectly good SBC all over the right lane about 300 feet short of the line.

Bottom line - those are great LOOKING shifters for show cars that don't actually need to start or move under their own power!

Sorry to hear about your truck - it sux to see so much work get destroyed in a second.
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