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Old 07-08-2005, 05:46 AM
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London bombings

I have a few very serious questions.

In the past 50 years how many pounds of exposive have we set off in the Middle East?
In the past 50 years how many pounds of explosive have they set off in the western world?

In the past 50 years how many Middle Easterners have we Killed?
In the past 50 years how many Westerners have they killed?

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Old 07-08-2005, 05:55 AM
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One answer for all the questions; Too many.
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:11 AM
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Just goes to show that the retarded war on terrorism is useless and just increases their hate for us (well for you guys at least, Canada dont mess with terrorist and they dont mess with us ).





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The "Islam-o-fascists" don't care about anything except returning the world to the seventh century. They hate the modern world and all those who are a part of it. Christian, Jew, Muslim or Atheist, it makes no difference. Any "explanation" blaming the US, Britian, Canada or any other entity for their hatred and intolerance is just plain B.S. The lefties and socialists of the western world are so eager to blame the US and other countries where there is any sort of freedom and personal liberty that they are becoming dupes and unwitting allies to those who hate us the most. Attempting to reason with the murderers is like drawing an ink circle around a cancerous tumor hoping that since you have designated an area that it can do what it will, it will not spread to the rest of the body. It must be excised and then agressively treated to prevent recurrence. As it is with the murderous scum. I hope that we in the western world have the courage to take WHATEVER action is necessary to kill the cancerous growth, and agressively work to prevent it's recurrence.

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Old 07-08-2005, 02:50 PM
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Biggarmike, I couldn't agree more. Nxs, do you want them to play catch-up? Possibly with a nuke? Would that even things out? This will be my last post on this thread so as not to inflame the passions of the other side. P.S. Maybe you can share some of your thoughts and reasoning with the families of the victims down in the tunnels. I guess they were just asking to die by going to work in the morning.

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Old 07-08-2005, 03:34 PM
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Nxs, do you want them to play catch-up?
They couldn't catch up if their lives depended on it...short of a nuclear weapon. And their lives depend on it. So, USA1
evil genius bent on world domination, do you think they'll use a nuke if possible?

I have answered your questions for the most part (1) no, 2) No, 3) almost), can you answer my first post? even a rough guesstimate would be great.
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:13 PM
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Just goes to show that the retarded war on terrorism is useless and just increases their hate for us (well for you guys at least, Canada dont mess with terrorist and they dont mess with us ).





Mike
they don't bother with Canada because we lavish them with rights and give them health care. (i'm not making this up)

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In the past 50 years how many Middle Easterners have we Killed?
In the past 50 years how many Westerners have they killed?
Maybe a couple of more fitting questions should be asked and answered.

In the past 50 years, how many civilian Westerners have Middle Easterners killed?

In the past 50 years, how many civilian Middle Easterners have Westerners killed?

The answers would paint a more accurate picture. We learned our lesson in WWII about killing civilians for military success. The rest of the civilized world took note as well. I do not consider murderers to be civilized.

We do not consider the deaths of innocent people to be acceptable. Murderers do not care who gets killed.

When I saw the news yesterday morning i was a wreck all day, I have several friends that live near London and had no way of knowing if they were alive or dead. They're students, professionals and hotrodders just like us. I care for them, I cared for the people here at home that have suffered because of terrorist attacks, I care for the men and women in Iraq and their families as well. Murderers do not care, they kill.

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Just a warning guys. I'm keeping my eye on this thread.

I hate having to censor, filter, or dump anything that anyone posts. But if a conversation gets out of hand, it's really the only reasonable choice we have if we want to maintain a civil environment on this board.


Here is a great information page on the London explosions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Lo...ort_explosions
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Big Jon, what's your take?

Larry, we, as democratic societies, are all guilty of each and every civilian death that occurs due to our military action in their countries.

I have some outstanding and unanswered questions. I do NOT know the answers to but I would really like to know. maybe there is a fact hound out there that can answer them.
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I wasn't aware that we had the ability to order Eastern terrorists and dictatorships to kill innocent civilians.

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Old 07-08-2005, 05:04 PM
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carefully re-read please.
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I have a few very serious questions.

In the past 50 years how many pounds of exposive have we set off in the Middle East?
In the past 50 years how many pounds of explosive have they set off in the western world?

In the past 50 years how many Middle Easterners have we Killed?
In the past 50 years how many Westerners have they killed?
Personally I vote for a few pounds of Uranium 236 and a short fuse. Turn the whole area into little glass beads and start over. And I don't really care how many Muslims it kills. That's my military experience talking.

That said the only way to win a war against religious fanatics is to help each and every one of them (those who are using Islam as a cover for their terrorism) meet Allah just as soon as we can with as few Innocent civilian deaths as possible. Unfortunately until someone comes up with a fool proof method of telling the good guys from the bad guys some Innocent middle easterners are going to get killed.

Now do I personally care about that..... not really. Call me callous if you want but I spent the majority of my life flying fighters and I have no mercy for those who would try to destroy my country or my way of life, and I don't care what religion they are.

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Centerline, don't take offence, but you're just a WARMONGER!

If we now shall start to shower the Chechen Republic by nukes, you will be pleased, or will cry that Russian - fascists and badasses in whole?

BTW, who Who poured over Vietnam with napalm?
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Centerline, don't take offence, but you're just a WARMONGER!
Why that's about the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me.

George Patton once said the object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other dumb ba$tard die for his country. The war against terrorism is a perfect example of this with the possible exception that our enemies are using their religion as a shield. It is they and not us who attack innocent civilians indiscriminately. We attack only targets of military significance and do everything possible to limit collateral damage and innocent deaths by the use of extremely accurate weapons whenever possible. They on the other hand use suicide bombers to kill their own people. If you count up the body bags you'll find that since the fall of Saddam the terrorists have killed more Iraqis than we have by a LONG SHOT.

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