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Old 05-02-2014, 12:45 PM
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looking for a frame to drop a late 40s early fifties truck on

hey guys i am debating starting a new project, and i am thinking about ground work. so here is what i am thinking about what late model frame can i get that will have a nice low static ride height, and good handling so it is comforatble to drive?

i was thinking like a bubble top caprice frame or something like it.

any body have any recommendations or runnig gears that they have used?

i'm open to all suggestions, but i basically want to buy a running gear to throw under a body not some custom frame that costs 8 grand.

i am well capable of modifications.

thanks for your input.

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Old 05-02-2014, 01:09 PM
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Converting the late 40's to early 50's pickups onto a Chevy S-10 frame is a fairly common swap.There are a couple of companys that sell kits for the conversion.
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yes an s10 is a popular option, but the rear end is kind of weak and it doesnt handle the best. naturally i want to install a V8 and s10 v8 conversion headers are pretty ugly.

are the track widths close to being the same?

s10 was my first thought too actually.

i was just hoping that i could find something better.
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I'm not sure on the track widths.I know someone who done a 51 GMC onto an S10,but,it was a 4x4 setup.Haven't seen him in awhile,or,had a chance to talk with him as he moved.I'll see if I can get any info from him.From what I remember,it wasn't that bad of swap.I rode in it & drove it a couple of times.It seemed to ride & handle OK to me.From what I've seen,most of the conversions do set a lil high bodywise.
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A Caprice frame is a perimeter frame and would be way to wide for an older truck cab and box
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Many will say just use an S-10 frame, my opinion is the track width is simply too narrow...a V8 barely fits and it looks funny from the outside with the wheels too far under the fenders. On my own '49 Stude project I did like the S-10 width at the rear as it meant I could put more rubber under there (with a different rr axle of course) but I cut off the front and put a G-body front in it instead (and that still is almost too narrow). That meant jigging up the two frame sections where they needed to be and cutting/forming/welding up a curved box frame portion to connect the two. Cost was, the S-10 frame was free and the G-body was free then it took a few days to get the work done right.
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Old 05-05-2014, 05:05 PM
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I have been researching the possibilities of a Dakota V8 frame
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I've wondered about those myself...don't know about width, costs, availability of things like drop spindles... Let us know what you find.
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One problem with the Dakota is the dang 6-bolt wheels, nothing in a traditional hot rod wheel choice because of this, like anything that is basically a 5 spoke design...so that leaves you with ugly "tuner" or "Euro" wheels or 4x4 truck designs unless you plug and redrill hubs, rotors and axle flanges.

I wanted to put Torque-Thrusts on my Dakota daily driver, but decided it wasn't worth all that hassle. Why Dodge figured it needed 6-bolts I'll never know, when their full size 1/2 ton trucks for years had just a 5-bolt pattern shared with Ford.

Lowering the Dakota is also a PITA, and not easy like the S-10 is, Bad or worse than the Ranger.

Smart move would be to just Front clip the stock 40's-50's truck frame with the clip of your choice, and an upgraded rear axle housing swap.

The '53 Chevy truck to S-10 2-wd frame conversion I helped out on ended up a ton of work, rear axle is too narrow for inner bed sides, so you need to "mini"-tub the stock '53 truck box walls...plus move and weld for every body mount, along with steering box interfering with radiator core support, so you have to cut that all up to clear.

'68-74 Nova/ '67-69 Camaro rear steer front subframe added to the stock '53 truck frame would have been much better, and taken less time, then use a 70-81 Camaro rear axle.
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First gen Dakota's had 5 lug wheels, I believe they changed with the "new" body style in '97...

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First gen Dakota's had 5 lug wheels, I believe they changed with the "new" body style in '97...

Russ
I've got an '00, I think the body shape is a nice look, but those dang wheels...
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I've got an '00, I think the body shape is a nice look, but those dang wheels...
Yup, I've got a '98 R/T. At least those wheels are livable...

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check this out

Finally found the link, may help you, they have specific and universal kits;

EZ- Chassis Swaps
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i posted this in another thread just minutes ago

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imo... it is easier to modify the existing frame than to find a frame that will fit, time is money when you have a shop doing the work
get a mustII ifs that is designed to weld into your panel and then find a rear end that is the same width as the mustII

for the motor/running gear; that 39 is very narrow up front but with some fab magic you can make it work
dealing with the ranger/s10/dakota you have a set motor to front wheel distance that usually doesn't fit the original truck
and end up fighting that for the rest of the project

i looked at all options when i started building my 58 truk and went with a fatman mustII
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