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Old 01-03-2012, 06:30 PM
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M II Power Rack ID

Not really sure if this is a M II or a Thunderbird rack or maybe some other Ford unit.
It's two pieces and all steel. The mounting holes are 16" on center. Also a third mount at 12" on center.
This was being used on my 36 Ford with a Mustang II front end.

It's 3 turns lock to lock.
The rack has " Ford" cast into it along with these numbers:

6-14GCC-1
G-30
B RC-1
G 26 TFC1
^-3
^ 26

I hope these number are close enough for someone to figure out which unit it is. Thanks guys !!


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Looks like a mustang II to me. I've had mine out several times lately and looks just like it.
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Old 01-07-2012, 05:21 PM
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Thanks, daledove.

Any suggestions for the twitch that I'll get using a SBC pump ? I'd like to hear from someone with personal experience curing the potential problem.

Thanks again.


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Hey 454

I had the same problem, 383sbc w/Mll front end and GM p/s pump. The GM pump puts out 3.7 gpm while the Ford only needs 2gpm. You need to install a Flow Control Valve which screws into the back of the p/s pump where the p/s hose connects. This will reduce the amount of fluid and correct the "twitch". SPEEDWAY MOTORS pt# 910-32918 worked for me. This will also "stiffin" the steering some.
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:58 PM
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I've heard that the 84-86 Thunderbird power rack and pinion works with the Chevy pump without and pressure or volume problems.

What do you think ?
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Borgeson offers this shim kit that lowers the pressure of the GM pump to match the Mustang rack.



Cost is under $20 and it takes about 10 minutes to install. I put one in my pro-street car and it did the job very well.

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Hey 454

All I can tell you is the control valve worked for meand I am happy with it. It screws into the back and was pretty simple. It was listed for $19.98 plus s/h at www.SpeedwayMotors.com. Now you have 2 choices. Priceless!
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:46 AM
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Thanks guys, I needed that ! I've been thinking this over for a long time.

Now that it's Winter around here and the car is on jack stands, it's time to act.

Thanks again !!


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Not really sure if this is a M II or a Thunderbird rack or maybe some other Ford unit.
It's two pieces and all steel. The mounting holes are 16" on center. Also a third mount at 12" on center.
This was being used on my 36 Ford with a Mustang II front end.

It's 3 turns lock to lock.
The rack has " Ford" cast into it along with these numbers:

6-14GCC-1
G-30
B RC-1
G 26 TFC1
^-3
^ 26

I hope these number are close enough for someone to figure out which unit it is. Thanks guys !!


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Thats a 74-78 mustang ll rack
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:22 PM
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Thats a 74-78 mustang ll rack

Thanks, Bad Rat. That's what I thought but, wasn't sure.


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this is the inline adjustable valve that goes between the pressure side hose and the rack gets rid of that "TWICHY feelin"

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Adjust...lve,14895.html
I used one of these on a 36 chev worked great,

OR

this one replaces the pump valve,, much cheaper
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/power-...-valve-th.html
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:53 AM
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I think I'll just replace the pump valve and give that a try first.

Too bad we'll have snow on the ground for 3 more months.

Thanks again, Bad Rat.


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I installed the pump valve and it did not cure the problem for me . Two days ago I just finished installing the inline adjusting valve I hope this works and I am sure it will as it bleeds pressure off high side to return and you can adjust to your liking . But I will have to wait until spring arrives to test it out.
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Hey 363wcoupe, welcome to HR.com. Glad to have you here.

Thanks for the information. I've heard that the adjustable unit is a good choice too.

It's funny how a product works for one guy but not another. It seems to be that way with just about everything.

I guess I need to pay my money and take my chances.

Good luck with your project.


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I also had problems with the valve, it took away some of the quickness, but not enough,, so I went to the inline adjustable one and it solved the problem,, the correct adjustment might be a little aggrivating,, because its so touchy,, just a slight adjustment makes alot of differance, when you are getting close to the sweet spot,,, sometimes it feels right at crusing speed,, but not strong enough when turning when stopped,, but the right combo is there somewhere,, make sure your fluid level is correct,, that makes a big differance too,,
Altho I was using a late model pump, ( stock LS1 type) don't know if that made a differance or not with the pressure,, I just asumed all the later pumps had the same operating pressure,,
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