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Old 01-25-2011, 11:46 AM
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Just took my heads for milling in last night. They held water in the chamber, Held compression. Stems were tight in guides. It burned oil on start up and knew the seal on L bank was bad. For $130 the shop cleans /magflx/ cuts/ seals, $20 each for the mill. They do not alter the intake angle during milling. Hosed for a $75 intake cut to match .030 milling.

Today they are finished and claim that they pull poor vacuum. The heads pulled fine vacuum when on the engine. They claim the heads need 220 additional in work. It should be there problem they changed all the angles.

How long do your heads last, what do you pay ?

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Old 01-25-2011, 12:27 PM
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It seals fine. Edit out the numbers if you can , op. Thanks.
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Old 01-25-2011, 12:46 PM
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They claim the heads need 220 additional in work.
What sorta additional work,..??

It's hard to base an opinion on 1/2 the information...
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I'm betting they're claiming the guides are worn and need replacing, which is pretty common. BTW your heads not working is not their problem, they are required to do the machine work you ask for and nothing more, if you want more you have to pay for it. At $170 for the work you had done you got a deal. Replacing the guides should have been done at the beginning though.
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:11 PM
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If the guides needed its was $110 not 220 as above. Not really my problem. They were polite, and knew the workings . When your anaylsis and what they say do not match, you have to consider the upsell.

Ever have new heads that do not pull good vacuum, how long do they continue to pull good vacuum.?
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Old 01-25-2011, 02:29 PM
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If the valves have been moved around they won't likely seal quite as good.
A simple light valve lapping may help. or may not. (depends)

The vacuum test is more accurate than what you did to see if the valves are dealing.

If they offer to show you the offending valves, take note.
They are just recommending what they have found.

If you think you can get by with what you got and don't want to do the new valve job , just pay the bill and pick them up.
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They may be trying to pull something on you, or you may just know a lto less than they do about cylinder heads. Even with an additional $220, $390 for rebuilding a set of heads is not an unusual amount by any means.

I'm also not sure by what you mean by "pull good vacuum" heads do not pull any vacuum at all. I think you may be trying to say they fail a pressure test or have leaky guides.
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If the guides needed its was $110 not 220 as above. Not really my problem. They were polite, and knew the workings . When your anaylsis and what they say do not match, you have to consider the upsell.

Ever have new heads that do not pull good vacuum, how long do they continue to pull good vacuum.?
You can't buy gold for they price of silver. The work they recomend will still net you a good set of heads for less than the price of new or after market heads. Like ap72 said, you took a chance on the heads being better off than they were and lost.

Cut the whining, get the work done and reap the rewards.
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"cut the whining" that was a very unnesessary remark, he was just asking a question in regards to his heads and the possibility of being over charged.
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"cut the whining" that was a very unnesessary remark, he was just asking a question in regards to his heads and the possibility of being over charged.
I totally agree, that was way out of line. Simple answer the op would have sufficed
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Once the VJ got to be a cerrtain ammount , you have to ask.
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