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Old 07-05-2006, 02:03 PM
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Malibu starting problem

I have a 2001 Malibu with a V-6. Yesterday my wife went to the video store to return a video. When she came out and tried to start the car, all it would is crank over as if you had no spark so she had it towed home. I checked and it seamed to have fuel pressure in the fuel rail. About 8 hours later I got a chance to look at it. I cranked it over and it started up just like nothing happened then I remembered something the prior owner had mentioned. He said that they had a problem one time that the car wouldnít start so he replaced the fuel pump and some other things before he found out that it had something to with the security system or something along that line and all he had to do was to try to start the car or to remove the key ďXĒ amount of times (I canít remember exactly what he said) So my question is has anyone heard of this problem and know the procedure to start it if it happens again?
Now Iím kind of afraid to have her drive the car and get stuck somewhere.

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Old 07-05-2006, 03:41 PM
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I have replaced many Ignition Switch Lock Cylinder/Pass lock sensor for just the same reason. It also has to be relearned after replacement. Not sure if this is your problem, but your complaint matches all my customer complaints. Hope this helps, good luck.

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A freind of my faimily got rid of a 2000 Chevy malibue because the security system was messing up like that. I think there might be a TSB on that problem
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It's a shot in the dark, but how many keys are on the key chain??

I ask this because my sister had her ignition switch fail because she had what seemed to be two dozen keys on her key ring. I changed the sitch, lightened the load and she hasn't had any problems.
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I was able to contact the prior owner and he said that he read some where that when this happens to turn the key to the acc. position and leave it there for a minimum of 10 minutes and that will reset the vehicles anti-theft system and the car should restart.
Itís either I do that or pay $550 plus dollars for a new ignition lock and keys and have them reprogrammed. If this only happens once every 6-9 months Iíll be able to live with that. Who knows maybe Iíll be lucky and it will never happen again.
Steve, how much did it cost you to replace your Ignition Switch Lock Cylinder/Pass lock sensor and did you do it yourself or did the dealer install it?
El Pollo, I heard the story about heavy key chains causing the lock to wear out on ďClick and ClackĒ but I think they said it causes the ignition switch to kind of jam so you have to wiggle it awhile to get it to turn on.
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Steve, how much did it cost you to replace your Ignition Switch Lock Cylinder/Pass lock sensor and did you do it yourself or did the dealer install it?
Total cost for customer was $512.53 including tax. (thats including 1hr of diagnosis and .5 for the reprogramming) Yes I did it my self because I am the repair shop. I own my own repair shop and I'm a state and ASE certified auto tech.

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Steve, I didn't realize you had a shop. It seam that thieves still steal newer cars all the time. So Iím just thinking, is it possible to bypass the VAT system or is it controlled by the computer? I have installed a fuel pump cut-off switch on the car so I donít worry too much about it getting ripped off.
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I wouldn't suggest trying to bypass the VATS system, yes it does go hand in hand with the PCM and BCM. Good Idea on the fuel cut off

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Steve, Due other auto companys have the same problem with these VAT Ignition Switches or is it only GM?
One of the first things I did to the car was change the intake manifold coolant gasket because it was leaking and after a little checking around it seams that about 50% of the newer GM cars have the coolant leak problem. I feel pretty piss***off that they won't admit the problem. It's things like that make you wonder if it's worth buying an GM or Ford.
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All cars have there share of problems. But they don't call GM God's Mistake for nothing Keep an eye on your intake manifold gasket, it will leak again, its only a matter of time.

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By the way not too offend anybody from my last post. I am a GM guy

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yeh, I wouldn't want my tools to get rusty
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