[wretched ratchet]

that's R-rah C Cola, pilgrim

[unclebill]

havent had a twinkie in over 40 years.
and i already know what being laid off is like.

[against all odds]

i wouldn't worry too much as twinkies are not very good for you. It is no big loss. And, in fact may be a gain.


2) For the people who ARE worried about it, i wouldn't worry as there are many companies already copying these food products.

[wretched ratchet]

Originally Posted by against all odds

i wouldn't worry too much as twinkies are not very good for you. It is no big loss. And, in fact may be a gain.

there's a good one line joke there but I can't come up with it - dang'it

[geezer69]

yeah, when i was a kid it was a treat. mom wouldnt let us live on it like they do nowadays.theres a burger in a glass case at one of the dr we see. it looks like it was put there today. its ben sittin there over 2 years. hahahaha

[NEW INTERIORS]

Originally Posted by against all odds

i wouldn't worry too much as twinkies are not very good for you. It is no big loss. And, in fact may be a gain.


2) For the people who ARE worried about it, i wouldn't worry as there are many companies already copying these food products.

I can care less about their goodies... But I think the most important thing about this is.. People lost Jobs over it.. A lot of people.. Twinkies Isn't what's wrong with this picture.. holidays are coming, And people are now out of jobs.. Very sad..

[CrashFarmer2]

We went to the grocery store this evening and they were all out of Twinkies, cupcakes and all the other Hostess goodies. We talked to one gal that got the last four boxes of Zingers and she told us that she was intending to sell them on Ebay. I guess Twinkies and other Hostess stuff is going like mad on Ebay. We have too much baked goods around the house anyway but I would have bought a box of cupcakes if they had them. There were a few loaves of Wonder bread left but I opted to buy the store brand wheat cottage bread anyway.

[gearheadslife]

Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS

I can care less about their goodies... But I think the most important thing about this is.. People lost Jobs over it.. A lot of people.. Twinkies Isn't what's wrong with this picture.. holidays are coming, And people are now out of jobs.. Very sad..

yes very sad, but is there ever a good time to get a pink slip..
that companys owners and management ran that ship into the ground twice in 8 years.. they where all getting pink slips at some point.. as they(owners and management) clearly didn't know how to run the business..

[lakeroadster]

Originally Posted by gearheadslife

yes very sad, but is there ever a good time to get a pink slip..
that companys owners and management ran that ship into the ground twice in 8 years.. they where all getting pink slips at some point.. as they(owners and management) clearly didn't know how to run the business..

The unions had a big hand in this companies downfall. The union contract wouldn't let the bread products (such as Wonder bread) and the bakery products (such as Twinkies and Ho-Ho's) to be delivered by the same truck, had to be two trucks instead of one.

And when they got to the store with the goods, the driver wasn't allowed to unload the truck.

This is exactly the kind of sillyness that creates 4 jobs where 1 job is needed. That's great for the union, 4 people paying dues instead of one.

The problem is to be competitive Hostess needed to be more efficient.

Hostess management said work rules from existing labor agreements made it hard to improve productivity and spend money efficiently. For example, some rules required different workers to deliver bread and cakes, the company said. Twinkie Maker Hostess to Close - WSJ.com

[wretched ratchet]

Originally Posted by gearheadslife

as they(owners and management) clearly didn't know how to run the business..

don't companies such as that go under anyhow?
I'm surprised that our generous Gooberment hasn't bailed them out to attract more Voters.

[poncho62]

Up here, the truck driver of these types of companies (bread, soft drinks etc) unload the truck, bring it in the store and in some cases put it on the shelves. I think the company has certain space allotted to them in the store, so its their responsibility to stock them

[gearheadslife]

Originally Posted by lakeroadster

The unions had a big hand in this companies downfall. The union contract wouldn't let the bread products (such as Wonder bread) and the bakery products (such as Twinkies and Ho-Ho's) to be delivered by the same truck, had to be two trucks instead of one.

And when they got to the store with the goods, the driver wasn't allowed to unload the truck.

This is exactly the kind of sillyness that creates 4 jobs where 1 job is needed. That's great for the union, 4 people paying dues instead of one.

The problem is to be competitive Hostess needed to be more efficient.

Hostess management said work rules from existing labor agreements made it hard to improve productivity and spend money efficiently. For example, some rules required different workers to deliver bread and cakes, the company said. Twinkie Maker Hostess to Close - WSJ.com

thats funny... the same truck that delivers the bread also drops off the snacks.. at every store I've ever worked in (going on 25 years)
they unload, the receiver checks them in. and out to the shelf they go..
maybe it's different up here.. doubt it..
if the 18 wheeler drivers dropping off to the distrabution centers.. are teamsters.. yup they are not to unload.. it's a liability thing/issue.. driver dumps a pallet of goods.. they are held for the damaged product.. if the receivers do it.. it's on them..
and no stores going to receive product that is crushed after the driver dumps the pallet of snacks, or crushes the bread... they'll refuse it... but if the employees at the store level, or the receivers at the warehouse level. damage the goods.. they still have to take them..
it's got NOTHING to do with the unions.. and your idea of getting 4 people to do 1 persons job.. but everything to do with limiting looses from bad handling..
once the venders stopped allowing credits for damaged goods.. this started... because no one cared if the pallet had 15 cases of crushed product. as they'd send it back for credit.. now that doesn't happen..
thats not the unions.. that the vender... store level here the driver owns the route, he/she brings in the product.. once check in (received) they put it out on display..
so unless things are different for other areas.. doubt that or they'd not be closing down all of the operations..
but it's the IN thing to point blame at one group..
look at the business model.. the problem is in there.. and it's not just them..
the baker dept.. not making enough goods for demand.. summertime.. no rolls (sold out/lost sales) winter or any storm coming bread (sold out/ lost sales) product on sale not leaving enough product and not refilling it (lost sales)
thats got NOTHING TO DO WITH the union.. and everything to do with management and biz model..
can't sell it if it's not on the shelf.. snacks have long date codes, bread does not.. so you have to be smart about the bread end... but like up here.. they hint snow.or any storm and they could sell every loaf they could put out..
I'm sure this is the same everywhere.. but they don't.. and empty= lost sales..
so.. it's down fall is much deeper than,"well it's the greedy union workers"
bad management is the cause.. and them not fixing (read firing) that management..
cause when the wonder breads empty you are handing your sale to the other brand.. and you might not get them back...
nevermind them having 4 brands of the same things.. just in the bread lines

[NEW INTERIORS]

Originally Posted by gearheadslife

yes very sad, but is there ever a good time to get a pink slip..
that companys owners and management ran that ship into the ground twice in 8 years.. they where all getting pink slips at some point.. as they(owners and management) clearly didn't know how to run the business..

There's never a good time for losing a job... But holidays makes it even worst..

[gearheadslife]

Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS

There's never a good time for losing a job... But holidays makes it even worst..

not so sure about that.. holidays a lot of places are hire'n and you can get in the door.. and if your good.. you might get past the seasonal time..
unlike say getting let go in jan/feb when not many places are looking to hire..

[NEW INTERIORS]

Originally Posted by gearheadslife

not so sure about that.. holidays a lot of places are hire'n and you can get in the door.. and if your good.. you might get past the seasonal time..
unlike say getting let go in jan/feb when not many places are looking to hire..

Things must be different in different state's..