[against all odds]

Well anyways, my view on the whole topic is:

1) i don't want to see anyone lose their job(s), but since twinkies ARE junk, then the employement situation is irrelevant and we should probably stop thinking about it. What, they are going to die if they lose their jobs? No.

2) The REAL issue is that twinkies and the rest of the stuff hostess produces IS junk. Therefore, all the jobs associated with twinkies was always pretty much suspect anyways. And probably the best thing to do is stop thinking about, talking about and eating twinkies.


So, in the big picture, do you see what i'm getting at?

Here may be a better example; Let's say drug kingpin gets busted, then this also means his Lieutenants (let call one of the them Vinnie) are also out of work. Should we feel bad for Vinnie because he is out of work? Not really, because the product/service that was provided was suspect in the first place.

Do you see what i'm getting at?

[against all odds]

P.S. If you look at the wiki on twinkies, hostess is saying that consumers have migrated to healthier foods.


That was my point----if you produce junk then always assume you are on borrowed time. Therefore the whole crying about losing jobs is, i don't think, correct thinking.

Even if you work for coke, you should feel this way.

[poncho62]

Originally Posted by against all odds

Well anyways, my view on the whole topic is:

1) i don't want to see anyone lose their job(s), but since twinkies ARE junk, then the employement situation is irrelevant and we should probably stop thinking about it. What, they are going to die if they lose their jobs? No.

2) The REAL issue is that twinkies and the rest of the stuff hostess produces IS junk. Therefore, all the jobs associated with twinkies was always pretty much suspect anyways. And probably the best thing to do is stop thinking about, talking about and eating twinkies.


So, in the big picture, do you see what i'm getting at?

Here may be a better example; Let's say drug kingpin gets busted, then this also means his Lieutenants (let call one of the them Vinnie) are also out of work. Should we feel bad for Vinnie because he is out of work? Not really, because the product/service that was provided was suspect in the first place.

Do you see what i'm getting at?

Nope...Making Twinkies is not a crime........and, saying that their jobs are irreverent is not the right thing to say......It sounds like the words of an elitist, to me anyways. People do what they have to do to survive, seems to me like you have never had to do that.....

[NEW INTERIORS]

Originally Posted by against all odds

P.S. If you look at the wiki on twinkies, hostess is saying that consumers have migrated to healthier foods.


That was my point----if you produce junk then always assume you are on borrowed time. Therefore the whole crying about losing jobs is, i don't think, correct thinking.

Even if you work for coke, you should feel this way.

I'm getting this funny feeling inside that YOU don't like TWINKIES !!!!!!

[against all odds]

Point taken, but at the same token i don't necessary feel that legality should be an issue here:

1) Alcohol is a drug yet is legal.

2) Pot is (sort of legal) in some jurisdictions here and i think in ontario especially they want it passed to be legal?

i mean junk is junk whether legal or not.

[against all odds]

Originally Posted by NEW INTERIORS

I'm getting this funny feeling inside that YOU don't like TWINKIES !!!!!!

Well, i have to admit that i love the taste of twinkies but choose not to eat them because the short-term pleasure does not out weigh the long term(like after 15 mins or so) negative effects of the product.

There are so many other naturally good tasting foods----i.e., apples, peaches, onions etc. that you don't need to go junk in my opinion.

[NEW INTERIORS]

Originally Posted by against all odds

Well, i have to admit that i love the taste of twinkies but choose not to eat them because the short-term pleasure does not out weigh the long term(like after 15 mins or so) negative effects of the product.

There are so many other naturally good tasting foods----i.e., apples, peaches, onions etc. that you don't need to go junk in my opinion.

[Project89]

union guys are dicks plain and simple. by dumb luck i landed a union/goverment job at a va hospital threw an employment agency. me and 3 other guys non union got hired to do the random odd jobs, anything form jobsite cleanup,to taking down brick walls and or moving building supplies around the site.

non of us were union but being a goverment job had to get paid the same wages 45$'s an hour.
we used to get yelled at on an hourly basis by all the union guys there to slow the hell down.and i mean guys got really damn mad at us.

we didnt care though we works our butts off when the work ran out ( what we were originally hired to do ) the site manager actually found us other work to do so we could stay on

and btw i will deffiantly miss twinkies, i didnt eat them much maybe once a month id have one but dam they are good tasting even as bad as they are for u

[against all odds]

i think the best suggestion is to focus on not eating or supporting twinkies and other hostess products and to stop thinking about the employment situation at hostess.


i don't want anyone to lose their jobs, but i guess my point is i don't think their jobs were ever that stable to begin with.

[lakeroadster]

Originally Posted by against all odds

...i mean junk is junk whether legal or not.

I guess I don't get your "junk" comment? Hostess obviously has a decent market share, meaning many folks like their products. The only issue is if they can make a profit selling said products.

If folks take good care of themselves, health wise, and if these same folks are in good physical shape, from a medical standpoint, yet they like to occasionally treat themselves to a Hostess product why is that junk?

I, for one, am tired of folks declaring food as junk. We live in a country where we expect folks to do the right thing for themselves. If they don't, it's their fault, not the company selling the product.

I have had (1) Twinkie in the last 10 years, no kidding, it's legit. Hostess isn't making squat off my support. But I will fight for their right to sell their products.

Just because some folks have no self control doesn't mean I need big brother telling me what I should or shouldn't buy.

[NEW INTERIORS]

That must be where the term Junk Food came from....

[gearheadslife]

twinkies for the last ten+ years have been a looser, just like donuts.. look at crispy cream..
peoples eating habbits have changed.. people still eat junk, that'll never change,, but they eat cheap junk.. box of dindongs was 2x what little debbies snacks are.. the school lunch nazies didn't help the cause.. schools pulling vending machines and alot of companies doing the same..
all are part of the reason they where on the 2nd round of chapter 11.. the ships been sinking for a long time.. and unlike the tobacco industry companies that saw the writting on the wall and started buying into other industries and/or adding different products to the menu.. even McD's had to change.. and add to the menu more than grease burgers.. you adapt or die.. they choose the latter.. and for all the union haters, the emloyee wages where not out of line in that industry.. the route drivers start at 2am and go 12-14 hours a day.. (at least here) no week ends off.. here most bread vendors are off wensday.. woooohhoooooo..

[wretched ratchet]

Originally Posted by against all odds

What i'm saying is that the product was so hokey in the first place that i would feel that my job would only be temporary; When the floor gets pulled out from under, the floor gets pulled out from under and i would need to look for a more stable industry.

The fact that twinkies have sold this long is a testament to the poor choices of american (and other?) consumers.

Who are you to decide what anybody should or should not eat? If all the companies that created products that were unhealthy went out of business then the entire World would be in a bunch of hurt.

I've been making my own decisions without your help probably longer than you've been on the planet and I will continue to do so.

However, there are some countries that make these decisions for you so maybe you should relocate to one of them.

[gearheadslife]

Originally Posted by wretched ratchet

Who are you to decide what anybody should or should not eat? If all the companies that created products that were unhealthy went out of business then the entire World would be in a bunch of hurt.

I've been making my own decisions without your help probably longer than you've been on the planet and I will continue to do so.

However, there are some countries that make these decisions for you so maybe you should relocate to one of them.

I think what he's try'n to say.. is if you see the product/company not doing so well, and after the 1st chap11 didn't really get much better and was slowly heading for that iceburg again.. you might want to start thinking of finding another job.. being shocked that they went belly up.. should've not been a reaction from anyone employed there..
the hammer doesn't fall that fast.. it was a long time coming..
there is a local company up here on the ropes.. the smart employees are beating the rush and looking for jobs in that industry before the hammer fails.. others will act shocked when it does finally fall.. but the signs have been there for that last few years.. some see the water coming in. and jump ship.. others watch it circle the drain and go "what happened"
more will follow in this companies footsteps as more and more food comes from china..YA CHINA.. and fold as the public buys the cheaper item..
the scary part is the amount of organic and natural foods that are coming over from china.. if they have antifreeze in baby formula.. the natural foods should be yummy...

[geezer69]

hahahaha, only you mego...good un. hahaha