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Old 08-16-2012, 06:21 PM
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Well i won't have to worry about it anyway. The transmission in the car is a muncie m22 rock crusher. Yes! Got a price of 750 if i pull it, 900 if he pulls it, for the tranny, pedals, and shifter. I have to get a bellhousing and clutch still since it has a pontiac motor and i have a chevy.

In addition to the tranny, shifter, and pedals, what else do i need to get from the car to make it work?

Thanks for the help so far guys!

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if its not costing extra,take the bell crank,bell crank support ,adjustment rod, cross member mount,yoke,m-22 is different,,brake light switch,dont know if that car has a neutral safety switch,reverse light switch,bell housing (for future possible trade) console.speedo collar and cable,bolts,
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if its not costing extra,take the bell crank,bell crank support ,adjustment rod, cross member mount,yoke,m-22 is different,,brake light switch,dont know if that car has a neutral safety switch,reverse light switch,bell housing (for future possible trade) console.speedo collar and cable,bolts,
I'll just take anything that's attached to the transmission. Is one of those parts attached to the engine? Will it work on my chevy motor?
also do you know if the clutch is hydraulic or cable operated?

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Are you gonna pull the side cover to confirm it's a m22?
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Are you gonna pull the side cover to confirm it's a m22?
As long as it's a muncie i'm happy, but yes i'd like to know what i'm buying. I just look for the straight cut gears right?
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You can see the M20/21 gear on the left vs. the M22

Only the M22 has the straighter cut
The M22 was available only with a 2.20 1st gear (should have a 3.73 or numerically higher ratio)
26 spline inputs and 32 spline outputs only mean the transmission was approximately 1970-1974 This is not M22 specific
All kinds of muncies have cases with drain plugs now
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Picking up the transmission monday. I'd like to make a list of all the parts i should grab. Remeber his car is pontiac powered, mine's got a sbc. Here's whats on the list so far:
Tranny,
Shifter
All linkage
Bellhousing
Clutch
Clutch fork
Drive shaft
Cross member
Pedals

Now i know there's a few other things i'm missing so if someone could tell me what they are and where they are located that would be awesome.

Does anyone know if the clutch is cable or hydraulic?
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77 TA should be a hard linkage, not cable nor hydraulic, it will have a pushrod/ bell crank linkage. I make sure to check the gear cut to make sure its a true "rockcrusher". but 750 bucks is still a good deal on a m21 or m20. I would be sure to grab the transmission crossmember. Also i think pontiac bellhousing bolt pattern to block; is different than chevy, so that may not work for you. But Im not a pontiac guy so I don't know for sure.'
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Well time for an update.
Feast your eyes!


M22 rock crusher! Complete with hurst shifter, cross member, and drive shaft. All for....... 900 bucks Everything else was worn out looking so i left it alone. Will buy all new stuff to swap it in.
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It's a 26 spline from the early 70s. There are 2 rings on the input shaft, it may be a M20. I am not familar with the fine spline Muncies.
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It's a 26 spline from the early 70s. There are 2 rings on the input shaft, it may be a M20. I am not familar with the fine spline Muncies.
Yea hensaid he was pretty sure it was an m22. I wont be upset if it's not though. I'll have to pull the side cover and check it out. I only paid $900 for it with the shifter and cross member so even if it is an m20 i'll still be happy with it.
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They always tell you it's a M22 when they own it or use to own it. It's like every old Mustang with a 302 in it is a Boss. If you see enough of them you can tell what it is by looking at it. They only used the fine spline Muncie for a few years and then it was replaced by a BW Super T10. There are websites that can tell you the ring count on the input shaft. The input shafts can be from a different transmission if someone worked on it but chances are it's what came on the transmission.
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I would rather have a M20 it has a lower first gear. The M22 was used for 3:90 and up rear end gears.
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You know a Muncie has had a hard life when you see one with broken ears that were welded back on. Seeing a used Muncie with broken ears is not uncommon.
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Muncie I.D.

here's a link for Muncie Identification, one of the best in my opinion. Muncie 4 Speed Transmissions... so far seems to me you have a 26 spline d M-20. made in 1970 to 74. But you still need to pull the side cover to check the (cut) of the gears to know for sure. Also to V8-4spd... not all Muncie trans case ear were broken from torque abuse. A really common failure is using the bellhousing to transmission bolts to line up with the pilot bushing. Also improper grade of bolts. I used Grade 8 bolts, flats, and lock washers. But I always torgue them properly, I replace my lock washers at any teardown too. Also a transmission jack is worth it price ( in broken case ears ) in proper placing of your transmission.... as opposed to the wood block on a floor jack as we all have done
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