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Old 07-27-2004, 08:39 AM
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masking flames

Back to the painting flames scenario. I've seen people mask off flames with a white "contact paper" type material and cut around the stuff they want painted. I've asked my paint store guy about it and he says it could be available at an art supply store. What do I ask for?

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Old 07-27-2004, 08:54 AM
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Re: masking flames

It's called Frisket, you can get the paper type or clear. I order mine through coastairbrush.com. I have also heard of people using clear low tack shelving paper from Walmart, but have not tried it.
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The solvents might eat the Frisket. Go to a sign shop and see if the will sell you application tape.

http://www.rjsign.com/Merchant2/merc...egory_Code=APP

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I just watched one of those biker build offs and I saw Arlen Ness throw some flames on a tank using 1/8" fineline tape. The dude was amazingly fast laying them down then taped off in between with regular tape.....The nice thing about doin it like that is if u dont like the way ONE comes out you can just pull it and try again.......the contact sheet can be a PITA in that same situation, no?
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Yeah bud, just use the 1/8" blue fineline tape. Its onlt about 6 bucks for 12 rolls of it and it's so easy to use. If you can draw flames, you can lay flames with tape. I have never used this frisket paper before and not sure how it works, but I find laying it out with fine line is the way to go. Here is a quick pic of my hood
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Here's a link to another thread where this was discussed in depth... http://hotrodders.com/showthread.php...ing+out+flames
The search function works great...
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Masking flames

Hey, go to walmart and buy "clear shelf paper". NOT the "laminating" paper they sell right next to it. Use the 1/8" tape to lay out the design, cover with the paper, and using a SHARP exacto knife and VERY LIGHT pressure, cut as close to the middle of the tape as possible. You only want to cut the paper, NOT the tape, (practice on something other than your paintjob first!!) I'm the owner of a custom cycle painting shop and use it ALL the time! I use the 1/16" fineline, but just because it makes tight curves easier. I would like to know where "Dubie" gets 1/8" fineline for $6.00 for 12 rolls, cuz I'm paying over $6.00 for 1 ROLL!! Hook me up Bro!!! The "Frisket" will work, (about the same as the shelf paper) but at about 10 times the cost. Frisket is EXPENSIVE!! and can be a pain to find. If you want some examples of where I've used this, email me and I'll send you some more. Also, with the clear, you can double check your design, like on over-under flamejobs!! Good Luck!!
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I just bought a case of 12 rolls of 1/8" fine line for $6.53 at a local Acklands Grainger. I don't know if you guys have them in the USA tho. It was to good of a deal to pass up
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Thanks for the info Dubie. I hadn't noticed you were outside the US. You got an OUTSTANDING deal!! My 1/16" fineline I use most runs $7.50 a roll here!!
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Here's something I haven't seen addressed yet....
I'm never sure when the best time to pull the mask up is.
Seems like if you wait too long you can get lifting of the flames when you pull the tape off.
If you pull too early you get crap falling into the fresh paint.
To avoid lifting I've been cutting with a razor blade along the flames...
What do you guys do?
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ive always read to get the tape up w/in minutes of laying the final coat down otherwise u will get a rough edge.

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masking flames (pulling masking)

Hey Guys, depends on what you're doing. I just finished a job that had a blue base, I had a flame mask down, put white over it, them pearl in the clear over that. THEN, I laid out some stripes, and put down gold metallic base, then candy red over that (count em, 4 colors!!) In this senerio, its best to cut lightly on the edge of your masking. In the "regular" world, pull the tape "CAREFULLY" back over itself at a 45' angle, while it is still tacky. This pulls the tape free from the fresh paint without fear of lifting and if your paints not too thick, you get a nice clean edge, and there is nothing to fall into your paint cuz its still stuck to the tape (tacky)! Hope this helps! Check this link and you can see the finished product from my example!
Got my site up this weekend, its far from done, but he's working on it: www.maxxmusclecyclepainting.com Stop by!! Thanks
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