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Old 10-14-2013, 11:14 PM
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masking plastic & light question

So I know there's this masking plastic,is it better than plain old paper if so Ill order some,Also lighting..I'm using TONS of 4ft shop lights then I run a few worklights/floodlights I use the cases of budget bulbs for the 4 footers can I upgrade my lightbulbs or do I just need to upgrade my whole lighting system I have some dark areas in the shop that can cause issues..really along the floors I was thinking about running building an a frame with a rack of lights with casters..any ideas?
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:10 AM
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I use paper to mask off the area I'm painting, then plastic for the rest
of the car. I don't like the plastic real close to the painted area because
the overspray tends to flake off real easy.
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Hey Cut...Sorry if you tried to Email me...down again. There's nothing wrong with plastic, but as JC just said, keep it a ways away from what your painting, most plastics will have a tendency for whatever over spray that lands on it to flake off and land in your wet paint.

If you can build a bank of lights on casters, great idea...go for it Cut...that would help lots for now.

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hi guys, yes i learned that the hard way , used plastic on the of a adjacent panel , sprayed base coat first, when to try to clear it when i pressed on the triger a bunch of flaked paint flew off the plastic and onto the clear, yea it was awesome trying to redo this again. as far as lighting goes i made my own rolling stands for the sides of the car i made them out of pvc pipe , and lights in all it was about 120.00 for 2 stands, i also made caster wheels for it, its a straight pvc pipe with 2 4 ft shop lamps mounted on it and has a I as a platform with 4 wheel casters on them , its a dandi... ill try to post some pics of it http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/infr...5-p-10250.aspx looks like this

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The paintable plastic is not that expensive and is well worth the money. I used it for the first time when I repainted my doors. It has one side that is designed to hold paint. I really liked it. It really held the paint with no flaking.

Norton makes it but I bought a generic brand from my S/W jobber that was a good quality

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Thanks John....I completely forgot about the "paintable plastic sheeting"...it's been a while since I've used it but, remember it working real well. Cut...John is right on the money on this product...well worth the investment.

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Old 10-15-2013, 07:27 AM
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If your going to stick with fluorescents stay with 4 footers unless you have deep pockets. Six and eight foot bulbs will kill you pocket wise.
A rolling unit can help as well as side wall lighting.

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If your going to stick with fluorescents stay with 4 footers unless you have deep pockets. Six and eight foot bulbs will kill you pocket wise.
A rolling unit can help as well as side wall lighting.

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I have 10 8ft light fixtures with the old T12 1 1/2 inch tubes. The government in its infinite wisdom has deemed then inificient and banned their manufacture. They are getting extremely hard to find. Be very carefule what you buy. Replacement bulbs may not be available in a few years. (or months)

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I have 10 8ft light fixtures with the old T12 1 1/2 inch tubes. The government in its infinite wisdom has deemed then inificient and banned their manufacture. They are getting extremely hard to find. Be very carefule what you buy. Replacement bulbs may not be available in a few years. (or months)

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I buy paintable plastic sheeting at my paint store. It comes in a 16' X 350' roll and is marked "paint this side" on one side. Cost is just over $30.00 a roll. It works great and I've not had problems with flaking. I prefer it over paper.
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I buy paintable plastic sheeting at my paint store. It comes in a 16' X 350' roll and is marked "paint this side" on one side. Cost is just over $30.00 a roll. It works great and I've not had problems with flaking. I prefer it over paper.
That's it. It is the greatest thing since sliced bread for taping off trunk openings or door openings. You can pull it nice and tight and not have creases for dust to collect in.
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That's it. It is the greatest thing since sliced bread for taping off trunk openings or door openings. You can pull it nice and tight and not have creases for dust to collect in.
You bring up a real good point John. I completely agree with dirt in creases, another one of the main reasons painters get dirt or trash in their paint is because of a loose mask...paper or plastic. With a loose mask, as your painting, the paint gun is blowing out paint and air at about 25 PSI...when it hits that masked of area (windshields, adjacent fender whatever), it makes the masking product starts to flap around. Any dust or dirt will find an opening and land on the fresh paint. A tight mask won't allow the paper or plastic to flap around and there by, won't disturb any trapped dirt underneath (I don't care how clean you have a vehicle...it's almost impossible to catch every piece of dirt...and the one piece you miss...will hit the fresh paint)

Tight masking doesn't eliminate dirt but, it sure helps minimize one of the causes.

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I regularly use the norton plastic. At 32 bux a roll its cheap as it will mask MANY cars. The main downside to paper for me is lint (regular ol brown paper). It can be avoided by using coated paper (usually blue), amd if you will be paining only one car, that may be better on your budget but it is still pricey. Just crease the wrinkles over and tape them up to avoid dust. I would still recommend painable plastic though as it is so user friendly. It clings to the car so you csn tape edges, bag the car ant then just cut out for windows, etc. Then stretch it tight for any openings and also mask to the floor all at once saving tons of time compared to paper.
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